From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:40:41 +0200 Message-ID: <838t1nhzd2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87in0r8qiq.fsf@jidanni.org> <83bm6jijvr.fsf@gnu.org> <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> <20181120.224652.842117314591353291.wl@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542771546 11766 195.159.176.226 (21 Nov 2018 03:39:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 03:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Werner LEMBERG Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 21 04:39:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJLw-0002uG-Hc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:39:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37039 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJO3-0006Rs-0O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:41:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNw-0006RX-V0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:41:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNt-000456-Qy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:41:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNt-00044Q-NL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:41:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNt-0001eB-J4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:41:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 03:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.15427716456302 (code B ref 33445); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 03:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2018 03:40:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNd-0001dZ-6c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38785) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNa-0001dN-OA for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNU-0002I6-Qr for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:37 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37790) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNQ-0002Cj-Dd; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2219 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNQ-00053P-6T; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:32 -0500 In-reply-to: <20181120.224652.842117314591353291.wl@gnu.org> (message from Werner LEMBERG on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:46:52 +0100 (CET)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:152613 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:46:52 +0100 (CET) > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Werner LEMBERG > > I second that. It might be a small difference to people who are well > acquainted with Emacs coding systems. However, I believe that Joe > User would prefer the `U+' notation. (I have a good knowledge of > coding systems, and even I would prefer to see the `U+' prefix :-) This is not about coding systems at all. The codepoint is shown at least twice in the display, just without the U+ prefix. The display produced by that function is already cluttered beyond hope, so much so that many important details evade you until you actually read each and every symbol. Adding the U+ to them (where, exactly?) would make aa bad situation even worse, for very little gain. The proper Unicode name of the character, CRYSTAL BALL, is shown in the display.