From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, 34765@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA,
alexanderm@web.de
Subject: bug#34765: 26.1; with-temp-buffer should not run buffer-list-update-hook
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:29:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <838suz7xqi.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2caec1e-2b1a-ba05-6aee-e810c7e96fa8@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Tue, 21 May 2019 12:04:46 +0200)
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 34765@debbugs.gnu.org, alexanderm@web.de,
> monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 12:04:46 +0200
>
> I have not managed to understand the Vcode_conversion_workbuf_name
> vs Vcode_conversion_reused_workbuf rigmarole yet.
The latter is a fixed buffer, created once and never killed. So the
buffer hooks never run for it, and never affect Emacs. By contrast,
the former is a buffer created when the reused buffer is busy and
cannot be reused. We then kill Vcode_conversion_workbuf_name when we
no longer need it. Thus, buffer hooks run for these work buffers all
the time, and for a code-conversion intensive code they could slow
down Emacs, specially if the list of buffer hooks is long.
> > The possibilities for the buffer creation subroutine are either to act
> > specially on certain buffer name prefixes, or to accept an extra
> > argument indicating what to do, no? Are there any others? There was
> > mention of exposing a buffer-local variable to Elisp, but IIRC setting
> > that after creating the buffer would already be too late.
>
> So far there is no extra argument, the entire analysis is based on
> examining the proposed name argument.
Since we currently keep this special treatment limited to a small
number of buffer names, I'm not sure there's a need to expose this
facility to Lisp.
> > Buffer names starting with spaces are already special in some contexts,
> > so extending that idea for inhibiting buffer hooks doesn't sound too
> > bad,
>
> Eli thinks that "this is too drastic a measure".
Yes. No one said buffer hooks must _never_ run for temporary buffers.
There could be legitimate Lisp programs which want those hooks to run
in that case.
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-05 22:57 bug#34765: 26.1; with-temp-buffer should not run buffer-list-update-hook Alexander Miller
2019-03-06 9:39 ` martin rudalics
2019-03-06 11:29 ` Alexander Miller
2019-03-06 14:13 ` martin rudalics
2019-03-06 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-06 17:57 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-23 9:21 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-23 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 7:27 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-24 11:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 12:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-25 8:06 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-25 8:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:31 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-25 10:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26 7:40 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 13:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-25 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26 7:41 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26 7:41 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26 11:00 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-27 8:30 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26 17:14 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-27 8:31 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-20 13:42 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-21 7:32 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-21 7:58 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-21 10:04 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-22 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-05-22 8:32 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-22 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-23 8:38 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-23 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-24 8:01 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-22 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-22 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-22 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-26 11:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-05 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-07 3:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-07 7:58 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-29 21:03 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-30 9:05 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 18:07 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-30 19:01 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 20:33 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-01 9:34 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 20:34 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-07 22:16 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-07 22:37 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-08 8:09 ` martin rudalics
2020-12-14 21:03 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-15 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 16:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-18 14:57 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-18 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-18 18:49 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-19 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 14:15 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-19 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 21:10 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-20 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-07 6:18 ` Alexander Miller
2019-03-07 8:29 ` martin rudalics
2019-03-07 9:44 ` Alexander Miller
2019-03-07 13:46 ` martin rudalics
2020-12-20 17:57 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
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