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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Native line numbers landed on master
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2019 11:16:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838spuwcyj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2y2xu8jxe.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Wed, 09 Oct 2019 09:19:57 +0200)

> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2019 09:19:57 +0200
> 
>     Eli> Bonus points for adding information missing from the above, such as
>     Eli> how to define buffer-local variables (see init_buffer_once), and how
>     Eli> to define custom forms for variables defined in C.
> 
> Youʼre a hard taskmaster Eli :-) .

I've been told that, yes ;-)

> Iʼve done my best, although I donʼt see where init_buffer_once comes
> in.

I meant the likes of this:

  XSETFASTINT (BVAR (&buffer_local_flags, tab_width), idx); ++idx;

Anyone who defines buffer-local variables should generally be familiar
with this stuff.

> +  By convention, when defining variables of a ``native'' type
> +(@code{int} and @code{bool}), the name of the C variable is the name
> +of the Lisp variable with @code{-} replaced by @code{_}.  When the
> +variable has type @code{Lisp_Object}, the convention is to also prefix
> +the C variable name with ``V''.  i.e.
                            ^^^^^
@code{V}

> +  There are situations in Lisp where you need to refer to the symbol
> +itself rather than the value of that symbol.  One such case is when
> +temporarily overriding the value of a variable, which in Lisp is done
> +with @code{let}.  In C sources, this is done by defining a
> +corresponding, constant symbol, and using @code{specbind}.  By
> +convention @code{Qmy_lisp_variable} corresponds to
> +@code{Vmy_lisp_variable}; to define it, use the @code{DEFSYM} macro.
> +i.e.
> +
> +@smallexample
> +DEFSYM (Qmy_lisp_variable, "my-lisp-variable");
> +@end smallexample
> +
> +  To perform the actual binding:
> +
> +@smallexample
> +specbind (Qmy_lisp_variable, Qt);
> +@end smallexample
> +
> +  Another use for constant symbols is when creating a buffer-local
> +variable (@pxref{Buffer-Local Variables}).  In C this is done with
> +@code{Fmake_variable_buffer_local} in combination with @code{DEFSYM},
> +i.e.
> +
> +@smallexample
> +DEFSYM (Qmy_lisp_variable, "my-lisp-variable");
> +Fmake_variable_buffer_local (Qmy_lisp_variable);
> +@end smallexample

This is great, but I think it would be even better if we explained the
general principle: the Qfoo symbol is needed where in Lisp you'd use a
quoted symbol 'foo.

> +@file{cus-start.el}.  @xref{Variable Definitions} for a description of
> +the format to use.                               ^

Comma is missing there, although recent versions of Texinfo no longer
flag this.

Otherwise, this is a very good addition; thank you.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-09  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-08  7:58 Native line numbers landed on master Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08  8:41 ` martin rudalics
2017-07-08 10:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 22:38 ` Alex
2017-07-09 14:22   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-09 22:56     ` Alex
2017-07-10 17:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 20:31         ` Alex
2017-07-11 15:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 20:44             ` Alex
2017-07-12 14:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-16  7:30                 ` Alex
2017-07-16 14:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-16 19:31                     ` Alex
2017-07-17 15:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-17 20:34                         ` Alex
2017-07-22  9:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 22:19     ` John Wiegley
2017-07-11  2:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 15:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-11 16:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 16:16         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-11 17:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 17:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-11 18:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 18:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-11 18:18               ` Sharp-quoting function symbols (Was: Native line numbers landed on master) Kaushal Modi
2017-09-30 18:36                 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-30 21:09                   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-10 16:51 ` Native line numbers landed on master Filipe Silva
2017-07-11 13:00 ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-11 13:37   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-11 13:47     ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-11 14:19       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-11 15:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 15:29     ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-11 16:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 16:12         ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-11 17:33           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12  3:23 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-12  7:11   ` martin rudalics
2017-07-12 14:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-12 15:49       ` martin rudalics
2017-07-15 22:02 ` Yuri D'Elia
2017-07-16  2:34   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-16 14:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-17  9:44       ` Yuri D'Elia
2017-07-17 14:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-10  2:46   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-06-10  8:32     ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-06-10 12:38       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-06-10 15:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-10 15:32       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-06-10 15:33       ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-06-10 15:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-10 16:23           ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-06-10 17:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 10:01               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-09-30 10:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01  5:44                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-01  7:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01  8:49                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-01  8:55                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-01  9:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01  9:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01  9:09                     ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-01  9:21                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-01  9:51                         ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-01 10:23                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-01 10:40                             ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-01 10:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 10:47                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-01 11:07                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 11:11                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-01 22:52                             ` Ergus
2019-10-01 23:51                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-02  3:41                                 ` Ergus
2019-10-02  9:40                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-02 13:56                                     ` Ergus
2019-10-02 15:06                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-03  4:11                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-03  8:16                                     ` martin rudalics
2019-10-03 14:43                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-03  9:10                                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-03 14:47                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-03 15:18                                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-03 20:37                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-03 21:48                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-03 22:37                                             ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-04  1:51                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-04  7:45                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-04  9:52                                                   ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-04 10:24                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-05  6:26                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-07  0:14                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-07  6:54                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-07  7:39                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-07  8:09                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-07  8:39                                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-07 18:52                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-08  0:57                                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-19 20:38                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-07 16:30                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08 11:15                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-08 12:23                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09  7:19                                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-09  8:16                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-10-09 12:14                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-09 12:23                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 13:19                                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-09 10:51                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-04 10:22                                                   ` Ergus
2019-10-04 10:26                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-03 12:28                                     ` Yuri Khan
2019-10-03 14:48                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-03 17:56                                         ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-03 18:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-03 19:01                                             ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-04  2:01                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-04  5:01                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-04 15:57                                                 ` Johan Bockgård
2019-10-04 17:28                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-04 19:24                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-04 20:12                                                       ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-10-04 22:45                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-06 14:04                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-06 14:45                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-06 18:02                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01  9:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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