From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Starting the Emacs 27 release cycle Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 05:36:09 +0200 Message-ID: <838so6t07q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r21yttok.fsf@gnu.org> <871rty46x0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="15219"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 24 04:36:21 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iYih8-0003er-Gq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 04:36:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33704 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iYih7-0000sK-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 22:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iYih1-0000s2-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 22:36:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iYih1-0003pX-32; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 22:36:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3514 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iYih0-0002Wg-9s; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 22:36:10 -0500 In-reply-to: <871rty46x0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (message from Eric Abrahamsen on Sat, 23 Nov 2019 13:30:35 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242676 Archived-At: > From: Eric Abrahamsen > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 13:30:35 -0800 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen > > A few months ago I made changes to Gnus so that non-ascii group names > (which used to mostly stay encoded) were mostly decoded. But I preserved > the original odd encoding in Gnus' persistence files, so that developers > could move back and forth between Emacs versions. > > For the 27.1 release I'd like to use Gnus' upgrade mechanism to switch > to properly-encoded persistence files. The mechanism includes a prompt > to the user, so they'll be aware of what happened, and it will only > affect Gnus users with non-ascii group names. But it would mean that > those users couldn't switch back to Emacs 26 without seeing encoding > weirdness. > > Hope that's okay... I don't know enough about Gnus to have an opinion about the potential risks in this change. So I'll leave it to you, Lars, and the rest of the Gnus team to make the decision whether this should be in Emacs 27 or not. Thanks.