From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> To: rms@gnu.org Cc: acm@muc.de, rrandresf@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 10:09:59 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <838sjl7y60.fsf@gnu.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <E1jI1WY-0005Ey-4w@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:48:38 -0400) > From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> > Cc: rrandresf@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:48:38 -0400 > > > It's not possible. Bidirectional editing support in Emacs is > > unconditional, it isn't an optional feature. > > It isn't optional _now_ but maybe there is an opportunity to optimize > redisplay if the userssays "no BIDI". > > Maybe some of the pre-bidi code could be brought back and used > when the user says there is no BIDI in the buffer. If you find volunteers to work on such changes, sure, why not. I don't volunteer, mind you: the display code is complicated enough even without that. > It would be interesting to compare 24 and 23, to see what slowdown > there is. I expect an average twofold slowdown due to bidirectional support. The OP indicates less than that (comparing Emacs 23 with Emacs 26), so it's reasonable, IMO, and probably means the CC Mode contribution is relatively minor. The tricky part is testing the bidirectional part and the CC Mode part separately, by loading the old Emacs-23 CC Mode files into later versions of Emacs. Maybe Alan could help by providing a Lisp file which, when loaded, would load CC Mode from a given directory -- this should be run before visiting any C/C++ file.
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2020-03-21 22:19 emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 rrandresf
2020-03-21 22:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-22 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 12:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-22 15:08 ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-22 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-23 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-26 19:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-26 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-26 20:38 ` rrandresf
2020-03-27 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-27 18:36 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-03-28 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 11:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 11:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 12:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 13:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 14:13 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 12:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 9:21 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-28 9:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 10:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 14:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 15:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:08 ` rrandresf
2020-03-28 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:38 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 21:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 22:15 ` andres.ramirez
2020-03-28 22:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 18:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:54 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:20 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 10:15 ` font lock with functions (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) David Engster
2020-03-31 10:42 ` font lock with functions Adam Porter
2020-03-31 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 10:13 ` David Engster
2020-04-01 1:02 ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-29 18:27 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 19:04 ` 조성빈
2020-03-29 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-30 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:00 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02 7:32 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-03 6:59 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 16:23 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04 8:54 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 18:08 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-04 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 0:07 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 1:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 8:46 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 20:38 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 10:23 ` Inlining policy (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 18:15 ` Inlining policy Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:26 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-06 19:17 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 4:03 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 18:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 18:44 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 19:09 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 21:00 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 21:31 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-03 17:47 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 8:56 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 10:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:10 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 15:50 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 2:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 18:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 17:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07 19:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08 2:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-10 3:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12 15:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-16 1:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-19 18:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 23:21 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-20 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 21:58 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-20 20:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 21:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-21 1:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 3:41 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-07 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-08 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 20:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2020-04-08 7:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-08 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 8:38 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 2:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 21:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 21:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 23:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 23:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 3:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:16 ` andrés ramírez
2020-04-05 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 20:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 12:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 13:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 17:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 8:37 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 0:32 ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 7:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 18:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 19:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 21:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 12:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 17:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 17:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11 4:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-12 5:03 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-10 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-10 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:33 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-10 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 13:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-10 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 15:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12 3:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16 2:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16 5:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16 20:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 6:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 17:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-19 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 23:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 16:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 16:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:02 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-20 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 19:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 21:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-21 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-22 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 2:37 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-23 13:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 2:39 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-20 18:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 3:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 3:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-21 1:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 14:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 1:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-24 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25 0:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17 6:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 15:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 16:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11 13:21 ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 17:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 21:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-06 2:27 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 12:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
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