From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 1e3b0f2: Improve doc strings of project.el Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:34:41 +0300 Message-ID: <838sfjl8pq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bllfqj82.fsf@warpmail.net> <83ftaf2rj2.fsf@gnu.org> <43a8f8d4-83fb-f012-8e1d-c1a618b0ef59@yandex.ru> <83mu4m0vub.fsf@gnu.org> <44f2f1f4-ae34-f0bf-b153-f33b8ee6069f@yandex.ru> <83mu4fvjh3.fsf@gnu.org> <7c2e93d4-8d86-bbbb-77a0-bf5d73051907@yandex.ru> <83imf2t4w4.fsf@gnu.org> <95fd893e-0da5-4cdc-a3e8-3c22af750aae@yandex.ru> <837dvfs6wg.fsf@gnu.org> <8bc1f381-248f-5cee-c3c6-a29d411a2f74@yandex.ru> <837dvbphs0.fsf@gnu.org> <83365zp78d.fsf@gnu.org> <831rlipmgg.fsf@gnu.org> <83lfjqnsa6.fsf@gnu.org> <294212ed-5a6e-0a7f-e1c2-97e917f1e6e1@yandex.ru> <83eepgomts.fsf@gnu.org> <83a704okmg.fsf@gnu.org> <5d59dd9b-0848-691a-615e-c16d2070b92d@yandex.ru> <837dv8oida.fsf@gnu.org> <834kqcoghk.fsf@gnu.org> <99bb8976-580a-ef8e-6b7d-130c3ca5cb8a@yandex.ru> <83y2nom3hy.fsf@gnu.org> <381b263f-251e-334e-228c-06cf09521845@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31949"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 16 18:35:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6rF-00089q-Rs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:35:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43706 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6rE-0001Y3-RP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:35:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52966) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6qX-0000xw-BG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:34:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51152) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6qW-0006jU-UH; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2897 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6qW-0002I5-37; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:34:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <381b263f-251e-334e-228c-06cf09521845@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 13 Jul 2020 22:51:04 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252982 Archived-At: > Cc: philip@warpmail.net, theo@thornhill.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 22:51:04 +0300 > > I have tried my best to be polite and accommodating in this thread, Actually, you've never been accommodating, as far as I'm concerned, and lately stopped even trying to be polite. Completely uncalled-for, since I didn't do or say anything that a project maintainer isn't supposed to say or do. > I challenge your authority Challenge away, if you must. It won't change anything in how I'm doing my job as the Emacs maintainer. Because I have all the intentions of doing that job the best I possibly can. And that requires me to be involved in any aspect of the Emacs development and maintenance that I consider important as part of this job. This includes, but isn't limited to, the overall quality of our documentation, down to individual doc strings when needed. It also includes any design and implementation aspects of any Emacs package or C code that I decide is important for Emacs's stability, or its future, or its being a project open to extensions, or for any other relevant aspect. These and other aspects are explicitly part of my job and of my obligations towards the GNU Project, which named me the maintainer. So no matter what you think about my authority or lack thereof, I'm doing my job here, and will continue doing it, as I understand it. Your "challenges" will not stop me. They will potentially cause a lot of friction and unpleasant exchanges, but that is something I can do nothing about, not without giving up what I consider part of my job. The rest of your message simply reiterates what's been said already, so I see no reason to respond to your other points one by one, as I already replied to them or their ilk in the past. P.S. I still hope you will change your mind, so that we could cooperate in a much nicer manner.