From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: write-region & visit flag to shut the chatiness? Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 22:26:40 +0200 Message-ID: <838saefxfj.fsf@gnu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21431"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 03 21:27:52 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kkvCh-0005RP-Hq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 21:27:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44782 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkvCg-0000ZT-H9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 15:27:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39500) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkvBw-000076-N3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 15:27:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkvBw-0007C5-E3; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 15:27:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1650 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kkvBr-000279-U5; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 15:27:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Thu, 03 Dec 2020 20:52:53 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260240 Archived-At: > From: Arthur Miller > Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 20:52:53 +0100 > > I don't even understand why write-region has to echo everything to > message buffer by default? I don't expect a function to explicitly tell > me "Hey look, I did what I am suppose to do!". I mean (+ x y) does not > tell me "Added x and y!" Why that befaviour by default? Because writing to a file is something we want the user to be aware of. And because Emacs behaved like that forever. > If it is of interest I can send in a patch and add an optional flag like > noverbose or similar; it is not über important, but I think it is ugly > and unnecessary convoluted design as it is now. We already have message-log-max which you can bind to nil to disable logging a message.