From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 09:09:38 +0200 Message-ID: <838s9bg6h9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r1na4tyu.fsf@gnus.org> <87tus6tj7s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6txigm1.fsf@gnus.org> <874kk5lzew.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87eej8ifll.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7o3k5b5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834kk1gk4b.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2514"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 02 08:10:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kvb3w-0000WZ-EB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 08:10:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvb3v-000087-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 02:10:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45022) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvb33-0007z3-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 02:10:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvb32-0004AX-6d; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 02:10:00 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1913 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kvb2v-0004qO-22; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 02:09:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 02 Jan 2021 00:28:31 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262294 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: ghe@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 00:28:31 -0500 > > > I would urge you (and other veteran Emacs users) to report any > > annoying change as a bug the first time you see it. > > I saw many of them when they were proposed. I did not argue against > them because there was apparent support for each one at the time. I didn't mean to report a bug when the change is proposed, I meant to report a bug when you actually see the changed behavior in your Emacs for the first time. > But so many of these search bindings have accumulated that it > adds up to a problem -- and worst of all, people seem to be drawn > to propose more changes in that keymap. I think (or rather hope) that timely reporting of these changes as bugs would contribute to us being more cautious with similar changes in the future.