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* Re: Motif support
@ 2021-12-21 16:15 xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
  2021-12-21 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 168+ messages in thread
From: xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions. @ 2021-12-21 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs Devel

(Not sure if this is the thread to bring this up in.)

Why does Emacs use so many GUI libraries? What is their advantage over
simply creating our own window and drawing our own scroll/menu bar?
Especially considering GUI libraries like GTK are the poster-children of
code-horror? (Which I guess is expected since GNOME people like to spend
their time on this Earth with deeds like slandering RMS. :) )




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* Re: Motif support
@ 2021-12-23 11:37 xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
  2021-12-23 11:39 ` Po Lu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 168+ messages in thread
From: xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions. @ 2021-12-23 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arthur.miller; +Cc: emacs-devel, eliz, ofv, luangruo

All the discussion on this line of thread about the pain third-party
"libs" like GTK inflict on Emacs.  Emacs drawing it's own interface is
an order of magnitude easier, and cross-platform.  I don't know, man.




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* Re: Motif support
@ 2021-12-22 19:19 xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
  2021-12-22 19:35 ` Arthur Miller
  2021-12-22 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 168+ messages in thread
From: xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions. @ 2021-12-22 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel; +Cc: eliz, arthur.miller, ofv

Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg02225.html
From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Motif support
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 19:40:21 +0200

>> Games usually do all GUI drawing themselves.
> So you are saying that so should we??

Believe it or not, Emacs is much more reminiscent of a game engine than
a desktop app.  Also if definition of video game was; a software, use of
which instills high levels of fun to the user, by definition Emacs is one.
:)




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2021-12-21 18:09     ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-12-21 19:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-12-21 19:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-12-21 20:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-21 20:50                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22 17:09                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 17:24                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
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2021-12-22 18:07                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 18:20                           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22  0:52                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-22 16:39                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22 17:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 17:59                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23  0:58                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 10:48                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 10:54                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 11:10                           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 11:17                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 12:40                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 12:46                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 16:41                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 18:05                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 18:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 18:57                                         ` dick
2021-12-23 19:29                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 19:04                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 19:31                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  0:40                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 22:41                                         ` Arthur Miller
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2021-12-22 17:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-12-22 19:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 20:08               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-22 20:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 23:44                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23  0:53                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-23  0:53                     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2021-12-23  6:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23  7:43                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23  9:05                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 11:21                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 11:34                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 12:15                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 12:25                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23  9:24                         ` Óscar Fuentes
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2021-12-23  6:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23  7:58       ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23  8:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 11:46           ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 11:52             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 12:43               ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 12:52                 ` Po Lu
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2021-12-24  0:38                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  1:17                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  1:24                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  1:37                           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  7:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:06                               ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  8:24                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  8:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  2:20                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  2:43                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  7:17                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  0:46                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 15:05   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 15:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-12-19  2:04 ` Po Lu
2021-12-19  7:05   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19  7:14     ` Po Lu
2021-12-19  7:35       ` Po Lu
2021-12-19  7:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19  7:56         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2021-12-19  9:12           ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 10:38             ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-19 10:41               ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 10:52                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-19 10:58                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 11:07                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 11:29                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-19 11:39                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 12:05                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-19 12:23                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 13:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19 14:15                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-19 14:27                                 ` dick
2021-12-19 15:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-20  2:12                                   ` Aiko Kyle
2021-12-20  3:13                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-20  4:16                                       ` Akira Kyle
2021-12-20  4:43                                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-20 16:54                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-20 19:01                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-20 19:21                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-20 19:59                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-20 21:07                                           ` Akira Kyle
2021-12-20  4:44                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-20  4:56                                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-22  4:16                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-22  4:40                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23  3:43                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-23  4:47                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 11:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19 11:29                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 10:28         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-12-20 10:38                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-21  1:01                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-21  3:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-21 17:01                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-21 17:47                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-21 17:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-21 18:02                             ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-21 18:12                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22  0:53                               ` Po Lu
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2021-12-20 19:32                 ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-22 15:58             ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 17:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 17:56                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 18:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 19:46                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 20:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23  7:21               ` Madhu
2021-12-23  7:24                 ` Madhu
2021-12-23  9:32                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23  9:38                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 11:53                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 12:06                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 14:36                         ` dick
2021-12-23 14:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 15:01                             ` dick
2021-12-23 15:07                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 15:33                                 ` dick
2021-12-23 16:17                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 15:43                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 14:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 17:47                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 18:24                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 22:47                             ` Arthur Miller
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2021-12-19  9:13         ` Po Lu
2021-12-19 10:14       ` martin rudalics
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2021-12-20  1:42           ` Po Lu
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