From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:30:25 +0200 Message-ID: <838rvvbe8e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <740A136F-8710-4F4C-BFC1-A3DB418447F4@gmail.com> <87zgoc7u6k.fsf@gmail.com> <83iluzbqcr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r19nxx7x.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17090"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: paaguti@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 18:31:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4neQ-0004FP-1Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:31:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51568 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4neO-0002SY-9Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:31:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4ndi-00012H-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:30:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=50604 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4ndh-00039C-SN; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:30:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=qxegHzhDSsK+ybz5OtiXfhzvXJb0rppRGbqK0kHce0o=; b=LGHCDaD8SuJQ S3m+bfazb2E+1SH+gs6w0OkJVIe1kqb1bi+gqHK06fGm3DW89yncZpIETp0zwfbrEmEkmt2XzT6ox xLxzDvvRUHLQtj+XJc41/ltOOWK7a0zLNYH7kn6tCR7OLrld9QU/c/05Ll/8mdNFkpS/SyE6Qllv9 QqTh8/0TpPrY4Szhc+Reqr8tgjVrcH4YmcvYUzFr+5K5vw4+jigkcXIPKo4WynqhkhM/XbApkHTxw uLrTa95yaPJI3Bcqv/kQBJAN+ESE/oOPTvBCD2vgvvwPTTe7wquCdTSdwqlK304qCXMkLfav7ebpq KLbEYZgfk0b8sVfCpKjFXw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4569 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4nde-000682-Ol; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:30:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r19nxx7x.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 17:49:22 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284179 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 17:49:22 +0100 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , > Stefan Kangas , > "paaguti@gmail.com" > > Drew> If you want to change, to use only `custom-file' > Drew> for `custom*' stuff, move such settings from > Drew> your init file to your `custom-file'. (And yes, > Drew> we should have a command that does that moving.) > > Making people who wish to retain long-standing behaviour set a > variable or edit a config file for something as fundamental as loading > and saving customizations is not something I would want, ever. The > *only* case I can see where we could set custom-file to eg > ~/.emacs.d/custom.el (and maybe load it automatically) is for people > with no customizations. Agreed.