From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: limit native compilation - how Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:55:01 +0200 Message-ID: <838rvewbdm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8735lp57kl.fsf@yandex.com> <83sftpyos0.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6fxugwg.fsf@zoho.eu> <83r199ymxj.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqluem4.fsf@zoho.eu> <83pmoszxwx.fsf@gnu.org> <874k64ddwo.fsf@yandex.com> <86h7a4954a.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83czksyszr.fsf@gnu.org> <86zgnv7w9n.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83wnizykig.fsf@gnu.org> <86r1977uu6.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83tue3yiw9.fsf@gnu.org> <86h7a37qzf.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87zgnvdcpw.fsf@zoho.eu> <86czkr7pov.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83o84bye6m.fsf@gnu.org> <86y23f5xxd.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83zgnvwmc1.fsf@gnu.org> <86tue25vo9.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83fspmwjym.fsf@gnu.org> <86pmoq5omh.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35507"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 17:56:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VIl-0008zZ-Cx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:56:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54956 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VIj-0003Bs-PB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:56:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VI9-00036P-5K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:55:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=42202 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VI8-0005F3-RL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:55:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ZYFBCOAIoJqIDrgaTxeElHQF0bw0zMDKiiAjs+6RgTg=; b=KTklqcoyyW/b 6NYwnUszxQyNI5YIQWlQ8GfeRoC99OoBljvwfqNndcQ+wcoeji89CYZ/ErwBbuVVwn1rKBcSIX3kR ESBTvAfAzC8XXMQnPCHLHyZJ3rX/tZzA1OQTuWXjMcH9rrKPLk6b2ev3IKTyGOVQFCFvXsUnr0B/6 wbwrED7xBgBJhU2D5lrF6NSssEP8R2h1ljgrq2F/9hCEo80ibZuYbL8pVMVpXwjx1jQohljC41btN 9UbS+Y/cMU5sB6hfX0JItt71DEUQO6GZtXtdoLBaLL5O+ixeiJ4rST1+LWTVIQIalYjRLjLrx0Jd8 Og87cMkMB/w7KO/gVrcqaA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1715 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VHm-0005XU-TE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:55:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86pmoq5omh.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> (dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135386 Archived-At: > From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:11:02 +0100 > > I'm wondering if it would be more fluid to compile packages natively > during installation and updating? The user expects then a delay, > anyway, and might be spared small "jerkings" during normal operation.. That's not an Emacs problem, that's a package.el problem -- and maybe not even that. As long as we don't endorse NATIVE_FULL_AOT=1 as the default, it makes little sense to me to natively-compile installed packages before they are actually used.