From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: kuragin@google.com, 57434@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57434: 28.1.91; Terminal Emacs Mac OS flickering.
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2022 09:11:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <838rn3sjwx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m21qsvveaz.fsf@Mini.fritz.box> (message from Gerd Möllmann on Thu, 01 Sep 2022 07:44:52 +0200)
> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> Cc: Dmitrii Kuragin <kuragin@google.com>, 57434@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2022 07:44:52 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Given our inability to pinpoint the root cause of the problem, and the
> > unsolved mystery why on some macOS systems the problem is much more
> > prominent than on other macOS systems, I tend to introduce a variable
> > that users could set from Lisp to tell Emacs not to use the optimized
> > insert/delete-lines algorithm in scroll.c. Unless some significant
> > new ideas or facts emerge in the next day or two, that is.
>
> I guess I've found these facts today, while rummaging in alacritty's
> Github project.
Thanks.
So we have 2 alternatives:
. declare that flickering on alacritty is currently a known problem,
and wait till Someone comes up with the proper solution for Emacs;
. add that variable I mentioned above, and let users try to fix the
problem with alacritty by flipping it.
TBH, given your description, I'm no longer sure a simple boolean
variable that disables insert/delete-line optimization will do, since
the issue seems to be a much more general one. How sure are we that
some other scenario of redrawing a TTY frame won't cause similar
flickering regardless of the insert/delete-line feature? So maybe
just document the issue in PROBLEMS and advise against using
alacritty?
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2022-08-26 16:54 bug#57434: 28.1.91; Terminal Emacs Mac OS flickering Dmitrii Kuragin via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2022-09-21 6:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
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