From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60815: 28.2; Hard-coded M-sff key binding in dired-aux.el Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 20:43:57 +0200 Message-ID: <838ri12e8i.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83fscd6l0v.fsf@gnu.org> <83edrx6jah.fsf@gnu.org> <86tu0p6wrc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36483"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 60815@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Evgeni Pandurski Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 17 19:44:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqwX-0009O6-CK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 19:44:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqwJ-00039x-D5; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:44:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqwE-00036V-Uu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:44:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqwE-0000pp-Lk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqwE-0006bG-4d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:44:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60815-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60815.167398104025355 (code B ref 60815); Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2023 18:44:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38249 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqwA-0006as-9E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:43:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47510) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqw5-0006ab-2u for 60815@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:43:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqvz-0000os-4s; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:43:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sur/EziWwYaWOANEWxI5Gw/b3G7mguyTDPhgxeNVWgg=; b=g/4Sz6u4Jm8L W5mzwY4f1juVmmkSEo2OfdFW6yR83QQ6QVSBz6obI+nYZ5H9XLN/u3LAAlU7/fsF9S8D3C5AvnbeG 85fpFmwy6pmTR8ts1TywTxccMLeBvv27vTNZniPETqaRv0shgN5l0Ym5FXEFL8EZydtFxnEAIJml2 lnt4DUPJbzNOh5Z4F6WTuhyrhfiLj/7twNjgEXcvvVRedpyVD1Ir9SFCpLc3PEffj/plEX0O7KptJ aP/IdrIadXMyjL2e8XCQ/85WawqOhnjlKeB0o7ovgtpEQZa/fN4c8sfZbC1b81lUousITPaqnslXQ skXrcO5TrZxaucov5PPaYg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHqvy-0004ay-K2; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:43:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Evgeni Pandurski on Tue, 17 Jan 2023 20:30:23 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:253576 Archived-At: > From: Evgeni Pandurski > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 20:30:23 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 60815-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > Now I see that i have messed up this mail-thread, by not CC-ing to all > participants (easy to do from Gmail's web interface). > > The point is that I found a way to re-bind M-s, which works well > enough for me (by monkey-patching some functions from dired-aux.el. > And I believe that, currently, re-binding M-s is unnecessarily hard, > which I consider as either a bug or a serious architectural problem in > Emacs. Once again, M-s in Isearch's local map is deliberately used for Isearch-related commands. You can bind M-s in the global map, and then you will have no problems. I don't agree that the fact we use M-x in Isearch is a bug. Some key bindings in Emacs are intentionally hard to rebind (for example, C-x), and that's a feature from where I stand.