From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing site-lisp without installing it Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 07:43:15 +0300 Message-ID: <838raszqfw.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5818"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 03 06:43:54 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRQBm-0001It-PD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 06:43:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRQB3-0002jY-NX; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 00:43:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRQB1-0002ij-6G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 00:43:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRQB0-0006tX-UU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 00:43:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=FnBnX0Pzuama7oth36fomvwAC45IsUsxBPdL8mPw3tk=; b=gQFDzDopsf2/ ZYZMBjgy0KLWq2ma5VMY3Sh/rIgQeAvMuiJmfNA3MIV4Oo45e45HZCFKAzsVwf4Vfqj/2RrXwiHIA a3i/YiYQGZzgG4bS0ieIpSQUk5xXHUlkYTOsJLbZ61aF+asSMDPhxhlo11KsOpWpAxfLkZd0vvvG9 Lf3oWiahau9rPAKYys2qsxNJprNHn2QCHRKY74OMcW8CoixOs3GdLU8MXmRZjjazwSubk++M4Pnh3 d9UFjBnHpak/y0plrdCPrWEpAUpm0JGuSSJYgagy3G9oS87ALT4RK4jJbvKu/lzbGlu2H42cBG3Pk kfHSvQPLsu8hDKwFKTRTWw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRQB0-0005Ir-Cz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 00:43:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Spencer Baugh on Wed, 02 Aug 2023 17:14:51 -0400) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:144563 Archived-At: > From: Spencer Baugh > Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2023 17:14:51 -0400 > > > I want to start using site-lisp at my site. But I'm not sure how to > hack on changed versions of the site-lisp, without installing it. > > What would be ideal for me is this: > > - There is a normal, installed Emacs, with a site-lisp directory. My > users run this and get the installed site-lisp directory. All normal. > > - I run this same Emacs binary in some way, I don't know how, to make it > use a replacement site-lisp directory, instead of the installed one, > so that I can hack on the site-lisp, without having to build a new > Emacs or change the actual installed site-lisp directory. > > Now that I say all this, I guess the obvious thing to do is simply pass > > --no-site-lisp --directory my/local/changed/site-lisp > > and then hack away. > > But will that behave correctly? Are there any footguns there? > > (Does anyone actually use site-lisp? It seems a little under-explored, > but I think it will be really useful at my site, so that people can > easily run "emacs -q" to get an emacs with only the site configuration > which should help with debugging their problems) I use site-lisp, if by that you mean the site-lisp directory that is put on load-path. I don't really understand what is it that you are trying to accomplish, but one aspect that might be relevant is that there are 2 site-lisp: one is specific to the Emacs version, the other one is not (so is visible to all Emacs versions).