From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:20:38 +0300 Message-ID: <837hm2kfx5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871vcc4xhf.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83ljakliqt.fsf@gnu.org> <838w6jk52k.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276450688 7848 80.91.229.12 (13 Jun 2010 17:38:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 13 19:38:06 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONr8D-00074d-Si for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:38:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40811 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONr8D-0001xJ-A5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52029 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONr7v-0001Wb-1T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:37:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONqsH-0002jm-0T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:39388) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONqsG-0002jQ-P1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:21:32 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L3Y00500QQNGE00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:20:37 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.88.125]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L3Y00266QUCVE70@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:20:37 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125875 Archived-At: > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:28:37 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org >=20 > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Kenichi Handa wr= ote: > > > >> > many people misunderstood that even latin letters are written = =66rom > >> > right to left in a paragraph (or a buffer) of "r2l direction". > > > >> ??? Latin text is always displayed left to right, independent of= the > >> paragraph direction. =C2=A0More generally, text direction is ind= ependent of > >> the paragraph direction. > > > > Of course I know that. =C2=A0But, I remember I got several > > questions why they are so. >=20 >=20 > I do not understand what you mean with "even latin letters are writ= ten > from right to left". I guess Handa-san means to say that some people somehow got confused to think that Latin text is displayed right to left in a R2L paragraph, because they thought (incorrectly) that paragraph directio= n overrides the normal text direction.