From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Selection changes in revno 100822 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:23:25 +0300 Message-ID: <837hjsu942.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834oeyv3ww.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxsqyp98.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83zkwptyij.fsf@gnu.org> <83d3tltcbh.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66E52B.4090901@harpegolden.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281824788 11756 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2010 22:26:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 15 00:26:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkPBK-00031m-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 00:26:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkPBJ-0000or-OS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:26:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44407 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkPB8-0000lU-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkPB3-0004rH-2z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:26:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:61723) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkPB2-0004r9-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:26:09 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L7500200XZPTP00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:25:30 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.102.143]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L750027TYAFSX20@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:25:28 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4C66E52B.4090901@harpegolden.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128708 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:49:15 +0100 > From: David De La Harpe Golden > CC: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I did already suggest reverting the rebinding of mouse-2 to > mouse-yank-at-click, but then adding a mouse-yank-selection-only (or > other name) customization to it so that its side-effect on the kill-ring > could be removed. But no one acted on that suggestion, so it sounds like it was silently rejected. Or maybe no one, including yourself, was interested in fixing a Windows-only problem. > Then that could just be turned off for w32, instead of mangling what was > the straightforward single-purpose mouse-yank-primary. Please don't call names perfectly correct code just because you disagree with its idea. Windows users were asking for the fix to this bug for weeks now; it seems no one else was interested in fixing it except your truly. Since I did the work, I get to choose the tools and the way of doing it, and I see nothing wrong with the idea I implemented. If anyone was interested in doing it some other way, they had more than a month to beat me to it. > That would also have the advantage of preserving compatibility with > third-party packages and other call sites of mouse-yank-at-click, > and mean switching between new and "classic" (ahem) emacs behaviour > would just be a matter of boolean customizations instead of > customisation (easy) and rebinding (hard). Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here. Specific examples of incompatibilities are welcome, as are bug reports about any such problems.