From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7943: white background is color #e5e5e5 in terminal window Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:09:27 +0200 Message-ID: <837hc4rqpk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20110130185857.ABE7116C28C@purefun.sfo.corp.google.com> <83d3lwrunk.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299966022 30496 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2011 21:40:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: warrenharris@google.com, 7943@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 12 22:40:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyWXo-0002SP-US for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:40:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54153 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PyWXo-0007Sd-0x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:40:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37470 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PyWXj-0007SM-4i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:40:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyWXh-0004zE-A3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:40:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyWXh-0004zA-2v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyW4Z-0004k3-Bg; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:10:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7943 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7943-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7943.129996418318196 (code B ref 7943); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2011 21:09:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyW4E-0004jQ-07 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:09:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyW4A-0004jA-T0 for 7943@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:09:40 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LHY00600QOBYR00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 7943@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:09:22 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.58.59]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LHY005XJQRLZ7B0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:09:22 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:10:03 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:44949 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <7943@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:18:54 -0800 > > > ("white" 7 (229 229 229)) ; gray90 > > ("brightwhite" 15 (255 255 255))) ; white > > > > As you see, what is called "white" in list-colors-display is actually > > gray90.... This definition is used to leave FFFFFF for brightwhite > > Wow. I won't presume to suggest that this is misguided, but I can't help but > wonder why. Why wouldn't white be called "white" and gray90 be called "gray90" > or "off-white" or some such? For compatibility with 8-color text terminals that cannot produce the bright colors, IIRC. Some text terminals can produce bright white by combining white with another text attribute (bold, if I'm not mistaken). Having 8-color terminals without "white" would be confusing. We do use "gray" on terminals that don't have this historical precedent, see w32console.el, for example.