From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoyingly cautious make rules Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:45:08 +0200 Message-ID: <837h2ecfwr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ehwnc97k.fsf@gnu.org> <4ED917E2.7020807@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322894785 31284 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2011 06:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 06:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, rms@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 07:46:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWjMa-00055j-6B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36705 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWjMZ-0007rv-IC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:46:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWjMX-0007q8-6M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:46:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWjMV-0000ao-O5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:46:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:63642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWjMV-0000aa-DS; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:46:15 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LVM00I007ZGGZ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:46:13 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.123.99]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LVM00ID68502U40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:46:13 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146455 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:29:21 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: Eli Zaretskii , Andreas Schwab , > rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On 12/02/11 12:36, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > the old setup did not need > > maintainer-mode because the configure file was auto-updated by "cvs/bzr > > update", but since this file is not under revisions control any more, > > maintainer-mode is needed to keep the file up to date. > > Sorry, I don't follow. The 2011-03-20 change put a copy of 'configure' > into autogen/configure, and autogen/copy_autogen creates an up-to-date > copy of 'configure' from 'autogen/configure'. So I don't see why > the problematic dependencies are needed after autogen/copy_autogen is run. Don't forget that 'autogen/configure' could be outdated, because the job that commits it runs only once in a while. During that time window, running 'autogen/configure' will not DTRT.