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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Bo Lin <bo@dreamsphere.org>
Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: Layered display API
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 05:49:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837g2biy4x.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egwj9659.fsf@dreamsphere.org>

> From: Bo Lin <bo@dreamsphere.org>
> Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,  rudalics@gmx.at,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:06:26 -0400
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> > What I meant is this: if you need to display below the last line of
> >> > the buffer text, put the overlay at EOB, and include newlines in the
> >> > overlay string when you need to move to the next screen line.  To
> >> > align text horizontally you could use spaces or align-to display
> >> > properties in the string.
> >> 
> >> Yes, I might try this, as soon as there's some suggestion how to handle 
> >> the problem of `line-prefix' in this multi-overlay approach.
> >
> > Find the longest prefix and align everything so that the left edge
> > keeps clear of that?
> 
> Zero length overlays don't get displayed so this won't work when the
> buffer is empty.

When a buffer is empty, there are no line prefixes, right?  Or did I
misunderstand what you eman?

> >> >>      This is indeed a missing feature.  It should be easy enough to provide
> >> >>      some special kind of display property that would overlay any other
> >> >>      displayed content
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> That would leave a question where will it have to be set on.
> >> >> Would that new kind of overlay be able to be displayed far
> >> >> from the position it's set on?
> >> >
> >> > No, I meant conceal the text produced by other display properties, and
> >> > display your overlay string instead.
> >> 
> >> It doesn't seem to be solving much: if I want to display something in 
> >> the middle of, say, large `display' text, there's no specific span of 
> >> text to set that new property on.
> >
> > You'd put it on the overlay string.
> 
> Ideally, for a popup tooltip, it should cover only the small
> rectangular area that is the tooltip, while leaving everything else
> intact to minimize visual disturbances. This is, AFAICT, currently
> impossible to achieve if you have to conceal anything with a
> 'display property, because: 1) in the simplest case the 'display is
> a string, but you don't know the proper display width of each
> character; and 2) the 'display can be not-strings.

I wasn't talking about the currently existing display properties, I
was talking about a new property with the capabilities I described.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-14  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-05  2:00 bug#18195: 24.3.92; window-screen-lines is not accurate Dmitry
2014-08-05  8:38 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 10:03   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-05 10:16     ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 10:24       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-05 12:20         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 13:05           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-05 13:50             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 11:55               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:13                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 14:08             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:57         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 14:12             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 14:38                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 15:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 15:45                     ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 17:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06  9:41                         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-06 14:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 14:41                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 16:26                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 17:24                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 18:02                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 18:36                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 21:09                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:15                             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-06 16:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 17:46                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-06 18:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-07 15:08                                     ` martin rudalics
2014-08-07 15:35                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-07 15:39                                         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-07 16:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-08  8:41                                             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-08  9:16                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-08 10:10                                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-08 10:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 21:21       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06  2:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 12:09           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 14:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 15:07               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 16:37                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 17:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 12:40           ` Layered display API (was: bug#18195: 24.3.92; window-screen-lines is not accurate) Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 17:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 18:20               ` Alp Aker
2014-08-06 18:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 20:48                   ` Layered display API Stefan Monnier
2014-08-07  2:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 20:49               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-07 15:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-11  1:14                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-11 15:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-13  2:42                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-13 12:46                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13 15:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-13 16:27                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-13 17:07                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-13 17:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13 15:28                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-14  2:35                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-14  2:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-14 13:12                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-14 15:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-15  1:20                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-15  6:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-15 23:03                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-16  7:41                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-16  9:17                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-14  2:06                       ` Bo Lin
2014-08-14  2:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-08-14 16:08                           ` Bo Lin
2014-08-14 16:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-14 16:42                               ` Bo Lin
2014-08-06 20:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-05 13:35 ` bug#18195: 24.3.92; window-screen-lines is not accurate Eli Zaretskii

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