From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19925: 25.0.50; mouseover menu items takes up to 30sec to show the proper tooltip or message Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 05:42:16 +0200 Message-ID: <837fv98faf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1d10f417-acb4-4b32-8bc3-fe949388330d@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1424663006 29306 80.91.229.3 (23 Feb 2015 03:43:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 03:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19925@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 23 04:43:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjvK-0001DQ-Hj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 04:43:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41915 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjvJ-00073k-JE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:43:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38741) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjvF-00073X-OI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:43:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjvC-0005rV-Gj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjvC-0005rM-D8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:43:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjvC-0000Xw-0B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:43:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 03:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19925 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19925-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19925.14246629372049 (code B ref 19925); Mon, 23 Feb 2015 03:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19925) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2015 03:42:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50967 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjuT-0000Wy-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:42:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:35010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YPjuQ-0000Wn-7I for 19925@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:42:15 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NK700E00GBFY000@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 19925@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 05:33:51 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NK7007XIGKF4Z70@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 05:33:51 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <1d10f417-acb4-4b32-8bc3-fe949388330d@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:99718 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > > Moving the mouse over menu items, a user should see the associated > :help pretty much immediately - at most after a delay of a second or > two. > > Instead, sometimes the help text is shown immediately, sometimes it is > shown only after, say, 30 seconds, and sometimes after any number of > seconds less than, say, 30. I'm not sure, but I think the problem might > be somewhat more pronounced for items on a submenu or a subsubmenu. > > The same problem occurs, regardless of whether tooltip mode is on. That > is, it happens whether the mouseover text is shown in a tooltip or in > the echo area. > > This bug renders mouseover help on menu items useless, and it makes > Emacs look pretty bad. > > Worse: because the help text for a previously mouseovered menu item > remains displayed, a user can read it mistakenly as the help for the > item the mouse is currently over. That is, the text is not removed when > you move mouse away from a given item, just as it is not updated when > you move mouse to another item. The help display is, well, the > opposite of helpful. AFAICS, that's because the cursor stops blinking after 10 blinks. Make it blink forever, and the problem is gone. There's nothing that can be done here to fix this. Tooltips for w32 menu items need input events to pop up, because when a menu is shown, Emacs doesn't have control, and waits for the menu to pop down.