From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add function eshell/clear to clear current eshell buffer Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:23:24 +0300 Message-ID: <837ft96y1f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874mpwhxml.fsf@gmail.com> <83lhj7lcgn.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4n7e1bn.fsf@gmail.com> <831tkz6yh1.fsf@gnu.org> <87oao23dbb.fsf@gmail.com> <20150309101126.GA11863@boo.workgroup> <83twxu5fh5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4lpofl5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83vbgt7gqw.fsf@gnu.org> <87d231o954.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83r3rh7dsb.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw25sbvx.fsf@gmail.com> <83lhhp795h.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429385036 11006 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2015 19:23:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 19:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 18 21:23:49 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YjYLC-0005Gx-LL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 21:23:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46653 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjYLC-0006OS-4n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:23:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjYL8-0006OA-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:23:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjYL3-0002Pm-VM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:23:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjYL3-0002OP-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:23:37 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NN000E00OHKFS00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:23:36 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NN000E9DOJBCU40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:23:36 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185634 Archived-At: > From: chad > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:10:23 -0700 > > > There could be no privacy if the attackers have physical access to > > your computer. > > This conflates privacy with security. No, it doesn't. > If I want to pass my computer to someone else (a common practice in > pair programming, to pick one example), but I want to clear out some > sensitive info first, it shouldnt be hard to do. Good luck keeping your privacy that way! > Making the emacs shell interface work like a non-emacs shell > interface seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do We are in violent agreement.