From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to opt out of curly-quote spamming altogether?
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:45:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <837fokhby1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c8408881-dddb-4661-9e7f-6ec42d9bf5fa@default>
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > > `help-quote-translation' does seem to prevent curly quotes in
> > > *Help* buffers, so at least there's that. But I'm looking for
> > > a switch to turn this virus OFF everywhere - to return to
> > > Classic Emacs. Surely such a simple ON/OFF switch exists?
> >
> > It doesn't. What you see in Info is literal characters generated
> > when the documentation is built during the Emacs build process.
> > So, to change that, you will have to regenerate the documentation,
> > telling makeinfo not to produce Unicode characters there.
> >
> > Alternatively, you can set up your standard-display-table to display
> > those characters as their ASCII equivalents.
>
> That's horrible. Users should be able to control this, easily.
Why? We don't have easy controls for displaying one character as
another. Why should these characters be different?
> I don't see this problem in a Windows binary from 2014-11-30. The
> regression was apparently introduced to the Windows builds between
> then and 2014-12-29.
It's the question of which version of Texinfo was used for producing
the docs. The defaults in Texinfo changed recently, independently of
Emacs development.
> A display-table hack would presumably change all uses of a curly
> quote.
A display table can be specific to a buffer or a window. See the
ELisp manual for more about that.
But it was you that asked for a switch that changed them _everywhere_,
which is why I suggested standard-display-table, which is global.
> That's not appropriate - it is only the code-"quoting"
> uses that need to be changable/configurable by a user.
What is "code-'quoting'"? An Info manual is not code, it's mostly
text, but you still wanted these characters changed there.
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2015-08-24 16:34 ` How to opt out of curly-quote spamming altogether? Drew Adams
2015-08-24 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-08-24 17:09 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-24 17:29 ` Drew Adams
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2015-08-24 17:57 ` Drew Adams
2015-08-24 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-24 18:36 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-24 21:44 ` Drew Adams
2015-08-25 4:25 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-24 4:16 Drew Adams
2015-08-24 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-24 15:26 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-24 17:06 ` Drew Adams
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