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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dak@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eggert@cs.ucla.edu
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding	UTF-8 encoded Lisp files
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 13:36:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837fncf8tj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838u7sf9ql.fsf@gnu.org>

> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 13:16:18 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
> 	emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> > Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 12:04:45 +0200
> > 
> > Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
> > 
> > > Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:
> > >
> > >> Yes, and those files are a pain to look at with Emacs now, since it
> > >> typically misguesses their encodings.  Presumably Emacs should be looking
> > >> at .po files' charset= decorations.
> > >
> > > It does already if you use the po-mode distributed with gettext.
> > 
> > gettext being the standard GNU i18n mechanism, wouldn't it make sense to
> > keep the latest version distributed with Emacs rather than requiring
> > users to manually install them?
> 
> We discussed that at some point in the past.  I don't remember why we
> decided not to do that, but a search in the archives might tell.
> Maybe those reasons are no longer relevant.

I've misremembered.  The discussion is here:

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2002-03/msg00167.html

and, more importantly, its result is already in Emacs:

file-coding-system-alist is a variable defined in ‘C source code’.
Its value is shown below.

[...]
Value: (("\\.dz\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.txz\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.xz\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.lzma\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.lz\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.g?z\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.\\(?:tgz\\|svgz\\|sifz\\)\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.tbz2?\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.bz2\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.Z\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.elc\\'" . utf-8-emacs)
 ("\\.el\\'" . prefer-utf-8)
 ("\\.utf\\(-8\\)?\\'" . utf-8)
 ("\\.xml\\'" . xml-find-file-coding-system)
 ("\\(\\`\\|/\\)loaddefs.el\\'" raw-text . raw-text-unix)
 ("\\.tar\\'" no-conversion . no-conversion)
 ("\\.po[tx]?\\'\\|\\.po\\." . po-find-file-coding-system)
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ("\\.\\(tex\\|ltx\\|dtx\\|drv\\)\\'" . latexenc-find-file-coding-system)
 ("" undecided))

And the bundled po.el already defines po-find-file-coding-system.

So it sounds like we simply have a bug here.

But once again, the handling of *.po files is not the issue here.  The
issue is whether we can ignore the possibility of non-UTF-8 encodings
in locales whose codeset is not UTF-8.




  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-27 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <E1Ze4K3-0005KC-5U@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-09-21 19:57   ` [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Stefan Monnier
2015-09-21 20:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24 16:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24 21:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-25  7:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-25 12:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-25 13:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-25 22:32               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26  6:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26  6:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 14:31                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 15:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 16:01                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 16:09                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-26 17:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 18:53                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 19:35                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 20:26                               ` Chad Brown
2015-09-26 21:50                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  4:44                                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  5:29                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  7:38                                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  7:46                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  7:52                                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  9:47                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27  9:54                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 10:03                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27 10:12                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 11:10                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27 22:48                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-28  2:41                                         ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-28  6:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-28 15:08                                             ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-28 15:58                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:52                                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:00                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  8:03                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  8:29                                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:37                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  8:40                                               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:50                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 10:14                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  8:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 16:03                                   ` Chad Brown
2015-09-27 18:41                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 19:52                                       ` Chad Brown
2015-09-27 20:52                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 20:32                               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  7:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:42                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  9:20                                     ` Rustom Mody
2015-09-27 10:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 20:21                                         ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27 21:04                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  8:22                                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  9:56                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27 10:04                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 10:16                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 10:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-09-27 10:59                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 20:05                                               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 17:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 18:51                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  0:12                         ` stephen
2015-09-27  4:44                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  6:20                             ` stephen
2015-09-27  8:34                               ` Paul Eggert

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