From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another others for maintainer? Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:10:01 +0300 Message-ID: <837fmhfouu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bnbuncw4.fsf@petton.fr> <87bnbtmsli.fsf@petton.fr> <87a8rd7bu1.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445361040 26571 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2015 17:10:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 19:10:29 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoaQd-0007nf-N2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:10:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47166 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoaQc-0006vq-U2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 13:10:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoaQD-0006pj-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 13:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoaQA-0007jg-1N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 13:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:64507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoaQ9-0007j4-Q3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 13:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NWJ000003FDZ000@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:09:56 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NWJ000FE3OJZD00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:09:56 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87a8rd7bu1.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192206 Archived-At: > From: Jay Belanger > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:18:30 -0500 > Cc: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com > > Yes; Eli has always done a great job with Emacs. Thanks. > Has he weighed in on his willingness to be a (co)maintainer? No, he hasn't. Primarily because I don't know what is expected of a (co)maintainer that I don't already do. If the answer is NOTHING, then you already have me, albeit unannounced. In that case, I can give up the title. I also have serious doubts it's a good idea to upgrade my status in any serious ways. "A man's got to know his limitations"; here are some of mine: . I know too little about some very important core parts of Emacs, so little that I will be unable to make decisions about changes there. . I have very little time to work on Emacs. E.g., I will probably be unable to track the commits the way Stefan did (see also previous item), and can only review maybe one or 2 patches per day, sometimes none. That's no way of keeping the QA standards high enough. I'm not even sure my Lisp instincts are good enough for serious reviews of large non-trivial packages. . I tend to annoy some people, for reasons that I honestly don't understand (the latest episode is still unwinding here -- and also on IRC, I'm told). My ideas are frequently rejected. That's not a good starting point for leadership. 'Nough said.