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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 22291-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22291: 25.1.50; REGRESSION: Emacs 24.3 breaks loading cl-macs to get macro `case'
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 19:44:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837fjrc1v7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7059fd9d-4ec3-4910-9aa2-f8c07ba9fe01@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 2 Jan 2016 09:28:02 -0800 (PST))

> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 09:28:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 22291@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > IOW, this was a deliberate change, and you should either use 'cl-case'
> > with Emacs versions since 24.3, or use 'cl' instead of 'cl-macs'.
> 
> I know all of that.  Just because something was decided does not mean
> that that decision was the best decision possible, or even wise.
> 
> This is a gratuitous change that breaks backward compatibility.  That's
> the point.  Gratuitous - unnecessary.
> 
> Personally I tend to require `cl', and at compile-time only, to get
> such macros.  But it is entirely reasonable that someone might require
> `cl-macs' - at runtime or compile time - to get such a macro definition.
> 
> And if some user does not compile the code that requires the library
> that provides the macro, then s?he will now get the entire `cl' at
> runtime, instead of getting only the much-smaller `cl-macs' at runtime.
> 
> > OK?
> 
> Not IMHO.

So I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

From my POV, this is not a bug, but a deliberate change that is well
documented.

Closing.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-02 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<61b4ebe0-446c-49df-b5d1-c527a47192b5@default>
     [not found] ` <<83a8oocr7i.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 17:28   ` bug#22291: 25.1.50; REGRESSION: Emacs 24.3 breaks loading cl-macs to get macro `case' Drew Adams
2016-01-02 17:44     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-01-03 21:31       ` John Wiegley
2016-01-02  3:23 Drew Adams
2016-01-02  8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-02 17:50   ` bug#22291: 25.1.50; NOTABUG: " Glenn Morris
2016-01-02 18:16     ` Drew Adams

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