From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:53:17 +0200 Message-ID: <837fhzrf6a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56C43D17.7010009@alice.it> <831t8aufoe.fsf@gnu.org> <8737sp51vx.fsf@gmail.com> <83fuwpubpn.fsf@gnu.org> <83h9h5rpx9.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455954832 5488 80.91.229.3 (20 Feb 2016 07:53:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 07:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: alex Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 20 08:53:45 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2MJ-0001Kz-PN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:53:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58970 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2MI-000798-TM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:53:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2ME-00077l-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:53:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2ME-0003L7-0k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:53:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2M9-0003KU-KE; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:53:33 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4728 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2M8-0005BZ-R0; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:53:33 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from alex on Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:15:41 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200283 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:15:41 -0500 > From: alex > Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > It depends on how the variable is being used, I suppose. There is a function > `package-install-selected-packages' that may be used to install packages from this list if it's not empty. > However, many people may choose not to use this functionality as they are used to or prefer other methods > (such as use-package, which I find much better). If one doesn't use this function (or `package-autoremove'), > then there's no need to save it. > > So I don't believe that the persistence of the list is necessary for all users. It could save some time for it to > calculate the default, which is why saving it could be somewhat useful in some cases. If the value can be calculated, then it doesn't need to be saved, I agree.