From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13949: 24.4.1; `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:17:19 +0300 Message-ID: <837fgmxya8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y49a4hga.fsf@gnu.org> <56F1837D.4060300@ro.ru> <83io0e4b5r.fsf@gnu.org> <56F19203.5040501@ro.ru> <87a8lkd2bc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83lh54ynol.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8ljzz3h.fsf@gnu.org> <8360w7zyh3.fsf@gnu.org> <83twjqy6p7.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn5y8urp.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83h9fqy1nz.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8liy04c.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459189113 12203 80.91.229.3 (28 Mar 2016 18:18:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, 13949@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 28 20:18:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjy-0006jm-Ps for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:18:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42141 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjx-0005Ak-UJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:18:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjq-0005AR-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjm-0002Lt-J7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:18:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45226) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjm-0002Lp-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:18:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjm-000457-C2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:18:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13949 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 13949-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13949.145918907015671 (code B ref 13949); Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13949) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2016 18:17:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjZ-00044g-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:17:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjY-00044U-H7 for 13949@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjP-00022c-Fd for 13949@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:17:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59641) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjP-00022Y-Cm; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:17:39 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4868 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1akbjO-0008R3-Ia; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:17:39 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 28 Mar 2016 19:45:37 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115673 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, 13949@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 19:45:37 +0200 > > > You've heard here that some people think the current behavior is > > correct, so we should expect users to ask "how do I get the old > > behavior back?" We should have an answer for that. > > Oh, I think I missed that. I thought they were only being confused > about how cryptographic hashes worked? There were somebody who really > wanted the "`M-q' didn't change anything, but I still want Emacs to say > that the buffer was changed" behaviour back? > > In that case, I can add a variable for sure, but is that really the > case? :-) That's my understanding. And in any case, a change such as this one shouldn't be without a fire escape.