From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3702: Emacs fails to respect the intent in `C-u C-u C-x C-s' of making a backup Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 11:14:34 +0300 Message-ID: <837fdmc3rp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20090628181318.3ABDA9828B@pluto.mumble.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466237665 11148 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2016 08:14:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: campbell@mumble.net, 3702@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrew Hyatt Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 18 10:14:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBOO-0001qi-9o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 10:14:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33564 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBON-0007uA-HO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:14:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47351) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBOH-0007u2-7n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBOE-0000BI-14 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:60606) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBOD-0000B7-T8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBOD-0008Jq-PH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:14:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3702 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3702-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3702.146623762531946 (code B ref 3702); Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3702) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jun 2016 08:13:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44710 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBNx-0008JC-2h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:13:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56162) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBNt-0008Ix-IU for 3702@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:13:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBNl-0008Qy-7T for 3702@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:13:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBNl-0008Qu-4N; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:13:33 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1069 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bEBNj-0006fW-5Z; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 04:13:31 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Andrew Hyatt on Fri, 17 Jun 2016 23:37:28 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:119719 Archived-At: > From: Andrew Hyatt > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 23:37:28 -0400 > Cc: 3702@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Sorry for the late reply on this one. This problem still exists in > Emacs 25. I agree that the current behavior doesn't match up with the > documentation. > > This probably is fixable by adding another free variable set by > save-buffer and read in various functions, but there's a lot of those > kind of variables already - the logic here, IMHO, could use a rewrite to > make the interactions clear. Maybe someone familiar with this code > might give their opinion. It sounds like this report boils down to interpreting the single word "unconditionally" in the doc string of save-buffer. All the rest is actually a request for a feature that never existed in Emacs. (FWIW, I don't object to adding such a feature, if someone submits patches to that effect.)