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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: 23926@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23926: defcustom with STANDARD=<non-pure-expression> gives confusing results
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 16:14:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837fcvgdho.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM-tV-80t+zDrp3OPhW36YtQCqWDWCZjc3TQdoj9Aka2TiJEfQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Sat, 9 Jul 2016 08:55:48 -0400)

> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 08:55:48 -0400
> Cc: 23926@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >> From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
> >> Cc: 23926@debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:54:58 -0400
> >>
> >> Yeah, it seems expected because you're familiar with the code.  But it
> >> causes Emacs to claim the "original" value is different from what it
> >> originally was, which seems nonsensical.
> >
> > It's not nonsensical, it's what actually happens, AFAIK.
> 
> What actually happens is that Emacs goes back in time to change what
> the original value was?

No, that's the plan for Emacs 42.  For now, we just compare to the
previous recorded value (computed at dump time, I presume).

> >> I wonder why Emacs saves only the original expression and not the
> >> actual original value?
> >
> > It does, but then it reevaluates at startup.
> 
> It seems it's also reevaluated every time the variable is looked at
> with customize, or describe-variable.

Quite possibly, we reevaluate a defcustom when in doubt.

The question is, given the above, do we need to actually do anything
with this report, except close it?





  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-09 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-09  3:11 bug#23926: defcustom with STANDARD=<non-pure-expression> gives confusing results Noam Postavsky
2016-07-09  6:31 ` Drew Adams
2016-07-09  7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 11:54   ` npostavs
2016-07-09 12:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 12:55       ` Noam Postavsky
2016-07-09 13:14         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-07-09 13:48           ` Noam Postavsky
2016-07-09 14:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12  3:26               ` npostavs
2016-07-12  5:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 14:34             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <<8360sehps4.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-07-09 14:54               ` Drew Adams
2016-07-09 15:09                 ` Drew Adams
2016-07-10 17:23                 ` Drew Adams
2023-10-17 14:19 ` bug#23926: defcustom with STANDARD=<non-constant-expression> " Mauro Aranda
2023-10-17 14:29   ` Mauro Aranda
     [not found] <<<<<CAM-tV-8cG3gLgf-A+wBYPZWNy2WPGFV3uEdNE7=ad3oq4rXmnw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<<<83vb0fgu83.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<<443f2e44-5167-48e7-abc6-cce1e243461e@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<<8337nihpdw.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<c0dd88c2-51ef-4f4f-964c-f0254db970f7@default>
     [not found]         ` <<<83zipqg3e3.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<ff33c2cc-337a-433b-a87a-0ea1814311d2@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83bn24c8io.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-07-12  0:53               ` bug#23926: defcustom with STANDARD=<non-pure-expression> " Drew Adams
     [not found] <<<CAM-tV-8cG3gLgf-A+wBYPZWNy2WPGFV3uEdNE7=ad3oq4rXmnw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<83vb0fgu83.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<443f2e44-5167-48e7-abc6-cce1e243461e@default>
     [not found]     ` <<8337nihpdw.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-07-09 14:59       ` Drew Adams
2016-07-09 16:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-09 20:48           ` npostavs
2016-07-10 14:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <<871t32ilm0.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>
     [not found]             ` <<83k2gtfue4.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-07-10 17:18               ` Drew Adams
2016-07-11 18:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<CAM-tV-8cG3gLgf-A+wBYPZWNy2WPGFV3uEdNE7=ad3oq4rXmnw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<83vb0fgu83.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-07-09 14:09   ` Drew Adams
2016-07-09 14:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <<c0dd88c2-51ef-4f4f-964c-f0254db970f7@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83zipqg3e3.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-07-10 17:18           ` Drew Adams
2016-07-11 18:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<<CAM-tV-8cG3gLgf-A+wBYPZWNy2WPGFV3uEdNE7=ad3oq4rXmnw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<<83vb0fgu83.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<443f2e44-5167-48e7-abc6-cce1e243461e@default>

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