From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Specialized Emacs Features ? Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:05:03 +0300 Message-ID: <837f0ucwog.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9376E14B-E917-4494-810A-8F6496E19916@gmail.com> <83bmq6d1f2.fsf@gnu.org> <838tlacz2g.fsf@gnu.org> <59E6B0B8-8D96-4C32-AFEE-4666DC9693E9@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496412439 1416 195.159.176.226 (2 Jun 2017 14:07:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 02 16:07:15 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dGnEP-0008Jd-92 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:07:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dGnEP-0004KA-SO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 10:07:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48353) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dGnCa-0003Dm-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 10:05:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dGnCW-0007FP-7e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 10:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dGnCW-0007FJ-4t; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 10:05:16 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3387 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dGnCU-0006ng-Vc; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 10:05:15 -0400 In-reply-to: <59E6B0B8-8D96-4C32-AFEE-4666DC9693E9@gmail.com> (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Fri, 2 Jun 2017 22:38:34 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215403 Archived-At: > From: Jean-Christophe Helary > Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 22:38:34 +0900 > > As far as *printing* is concerned, I don't know whether it is very hard to create a "basic" manual and an "advanced" manual from the files that create the *whole* manual (standard+specialized) when creating the printed files, but it seems to be only a matter of configuring a few files. You should talk to the FSF about this, it is they who publish printed manuals and sell them. I have no idea what they consider when they decide on these issues. > For digital versions, all the informations should be in *the* emacs manual. I'm not sure I understand what that means. What is a "digital" version? > • I'm not finding the "specialized" manual in Info mode. How are you looking? E.g., the first menu item in emacs-xtra.texi is "Autorevert", and if I type "g Autorevert RET" in the Emacs manual, I get to that node. IOW, the chapters of this manual are chapters and sections in the Emacs manual in Info format. There's no separate manual in Info. > • The emacs manual is *not* an introductory manual, so I don't think we should have an "Advanced Features" section where most of the chapters could actually be placed in sections that relate to their contents (as I kind of proposed in the re-shuffling I sent in my earlier mail). You interpret "Advanced" too literally in this case. I think it's a euphemism.