From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trying out GitLab (was Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:54:24 +0300 Message-ID: <837ezjks1r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87poddqb5y.fsf@gnu.org> <871spsveyw.fsf@petton.fr> <87van4tzu9.fsf@petton.fr> <871spsla9r.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871sprb394.fsf@gmail.com> <640b51d5-9786-358c-985e-c55023acd75c@yandex.ru> <838tjzkuvs.fsf@gnu.org> <87zicf9jzz.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499518499 6172 195.159.176.226 (8 Jul 2017 12:54:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 12:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, toon@iotcl.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 08 14:54:52 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTpG6-0000vW-L0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 14:54:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32843 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTpG5-0004HU-KE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 08:54:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51871) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTpG0-0004HP-0Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 08:54:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTpFw-00073W-UM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 08:54:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTpFw-00073C-Rd; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 08:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1900 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dTpFq-0004nh-FZ; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 08:54:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <87zicf9jzz.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIg?= =?utf-8?B?QXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason on Sat, 08 Jul 2017 14:43:44 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216323 Archived-At: > From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , tzz@lifelogs.com, toon@iotcl.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 14:43:44 +0200 > > > It's actually more than that: patches submitted to Emacs need to > > conform to our coding and various other standards: include > > properly-formatted commit log messages, documentation, and (where > > appropriate) tests, etc. Patch review could require cleanup changes > > etc. > > > > People who find this too much of an effort should perhaps describe > > their solution without showing any actual code, so that someone else > > could implement it. This way, copyright assignment is not an issue, > > and chances are the change will be eventually made. > > "My project's requirements are so onerous that some find it not worth > their time to contribute at all, but it's OK because those some > people can instead describe in prose what their not-good-enough > contributions should look like instead, surely that'll yield the same > end result.". > > I think that's a fair paraphrasing of the point you made. No, it isn't fair. You've added some derogatory adjectives which weren't there, and that completely distorts the message. It was meant to be positive, and propose a practical alternative through which people could still contribute and have the problems they bumped into solved, without requiring too much effort.