From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: run-with-timer vs run-with-idle-timer Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 22:21:35 +0300 Message-ID: <837eocprcw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tvrgd972.fsf@gmail.com> <83a7t8puaw.fsf@gnu.org> <87efikd65q.fsf@gmail.com> <838t8spsd5.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvrgbpys.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1525893667 12134 195.159.176.226 (9 May 2018 19:21:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 19:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 09 21:21:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGUe6-00032S-D4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 21:21:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58630 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGUgD-0000h4-8y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 15:23:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGUeX-0008J6-F8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 15:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGUeU-0003DU-75 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 15:21:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46050) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGUeU-0003DO-35; Wed, 09 May 2018 15:21:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1406 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fGUeT-0003aM-G9; Wed, 09 May 2018 15:21:25 -0400 In-reply-to: <87tvrgbpys.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28g?= =?utf-8?B?VMOhdm9yYQ==?= on Wed, 09 May 2018 20:15:23 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225175 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 20:15:23 +0100 > > > An idle timer set for 600 seconds will run when ten minutes have > > elapsed since the last user command was finished, even if subprocess > > output has been accepted thousands of times within those ten minutes, > > and even if there have been garbage collections and autosaves. > > Doesn't this contradict what you told me first? I.e doesn't this > contradict the fact that this never returns? > > (catch 'done > (run-with-idle-timer 600 nil (lambda () (throw 'done nil))) > (while t (accept-process-output nil 0.1))) ; 6 thousand times > > or should the manual be saying "even if subprocesses output has been > non-explictly accepted thousands of times"? "Subprocess output" in that text doesn't include what accept-process-output delivers, the text alludes to reading of subprocess output via filter functions.