From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35580: hexl-mode documentation is confusing about insertion Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 15:01:26 +0300 Message-ID: <837eaxdwtl.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="216138"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35580-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 11 14:02:22 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQhp-000u58-9v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 14:02:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58113 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQho-0002RG-DT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:02:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44819) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQhc-0002R7-I7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQha-0004pq-7h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54695) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQhW-0004oI-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQhW-0004hL-Ki for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:02:02 -0400 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 12:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 35580 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 35580@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, rrt@sc3d.org Original-Received: via spool by 35580-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D35580.155757609918025 (code D ref 35580); Sat, 11 May 2019 12:02:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35580-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2019 12:01:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40005 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQh9-0004gf-7K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:01:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58565) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQh7-0004gS-Kc for 35580-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:01:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQh2-0004az-2i; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:01:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2337 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hPQh1-0002XF-Ib; Sat, 11 May 2019 08:01:31 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Reuben Thomas on Sun, 5 May 2019 13:53:55 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:159074 Archived-At: > From: Reuben Thomas > Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 13:53:55 +0100 > > Ordinary text characters overwrite in Hexl mode. This is to reduce > the risk of accidentally spoiling the alignment of data in the file. > There are special commands for insertion. > > (I copied this from git master just to be sure!) > > The list of commands underneath list several commands that have "insert" in their name, leading the naive > reader (me) to believe they will insert rather than overwrite. > > However, this is not the case: the various keystrokes listed underneath which mention "insert" all overstrike. > > I suspect that my confusion results from guessing (incorrectly) that the sentence "There are special > commands for insertion" uses the word "insertion" to oppose "overwrite" earlier in the paragraph; but in fact, it > means "insertion" in the sense of "inserting a character", which happens always to overwrite in hexl-mode. Thanks, I clarified this text.