From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preloading seq.el Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:47:04 +0300 Message-ID: <837e6wb0l3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87imqgjgqm.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="160991"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 29 14:47:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i3Jpl-000fcF-K4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:47:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49558 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i3Jpj-00085h-El for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:47:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i3JpO-000846-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:47:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i3JpO-0000FD-6c; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1230 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i3JpL-0004Tj-4q; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:47:01 -0400 In-reply-to: <87imqgjgqm.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:30:57 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239676 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:30:57 +0200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I'm all for preloading both seq.el and cl-lib.el. I think it's annoying > that we're not allowed to use these very useful libraries in the most > central bits of Emacs, but instead have to write less optimal and > readable code in those files. Preloading is a far cry from being allowed to use the packages. I don't understand why you consider not preloading a package as if that denies your ability to use it.