From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38696: "If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up" Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 19:04:52 +0200 Message-ID: <837e2oz3yj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87eewyr1f4.8.fsf@jidanni.org> <87fthdurh1.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="110673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38696@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 22 18:06:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4gF-000SeN-B3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 18:06:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49468 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4gE-0000ha-3X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:06:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39357) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4g8-0000hS-IM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:06:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4g6-0006fL-BT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:06:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4g6-0006eK-66 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:06:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4g5-0001UI-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:06:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38696 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38696-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38696.15770343385686 (code B ref 38696); Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38696) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2019 17:05:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4fh-0001Te-N3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:05:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56079) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4ff-0001TR-3o for 38696@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:05:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4fZ-0004PK-Kc; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:05:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1551 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ij4fH-00034O-Po; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:05:15 -0500 In-reply-to: <87fthdurh1.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173641 Archived-At: > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 08:35:54 +0800 > Cc: 38696@debbugs.gnu.org > > >>>>> "RMS" == Richard Stallman writes: > > RMS> Would you please show us what this looks like? > > $ cat .emacs > (custom-set-variables > ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > ) > (custom-set-faces > ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > '(default ((t (:family "DejaVu Sans Mono" :foundry "PfEd" :slant normal :weight normal :height 218 :width normal))))) > > There is no way offered to "decompile" this into something that all > those Emacs manuals talk about when introducing how to edit your .emacs > file. custom-set-variables and custom-set-faces are documented in the ELisp manual, so, while the note about caution is in order (because not every user knows Lisp), there's nothing magical about the above, no more than some use of setq. > The user is no longer in full control, but must maintain it via an > interface (the menus.) Only if the user chooses not to be in control.