From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 'M-o' ('facemap-keymap') has now been removed until March 10th 2021 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:00:37 +0200 Message-ID: <837dm4defe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a6sbg41o.fsf@gnus.org> <87lfatirk1.fsf@gnus.org> <878s6lumf0.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6238"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 10:03:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoYv-0001Ul-0C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:03:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55376 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoYu-0005Sa-14 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:03:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoWL-0003nc-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:00:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoWK-00039f-6w; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:00:44 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2412 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lMoWD-0003uw-Bt; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:00:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878s6lumf0.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:16:03 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266549 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:16:03 +0100 > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > The test period is now over, so we should now discuss whether to make > > the change permanent, and if so, whether we should bind any of the > > affected commands to something else. > > We've now had a one week discussion period, so I've made some decisions. > > 1) Nobody wanted to keep the global `M-o' binding (facemenu), so I've > removed that. > > 2) There was no clamouring to keep a global binding for `center-line' > and `center-paragraph', so those that find those commands extremely > useful will have to bind it themselves. > > 3) 99.7% of the discussion involved whether `font-lock-fontify-block' > was useful or not. Apparently most people had never heard of it, but > when they did hear of it, several said (I'm paraphrasing) "that sounds > quite useful indeed, but it's a bit odd" (i.e., the "block" it fontifies > doesn't seem ideal). Gregory suggested a variation on it, and that > seems to work even better, so I've included it and bound it to > `C-x x f'. (But those that really want `font-lock-fontify-block' will > have to bind it themselves.) > > I've now pushed these changes. (And we no longer need to preload > facemenu, I guess, so I'll try to remove that, but it's not totally > trivial.) Fair enough, but please include in NEWS a recipe to get back the old behavior. Is the following enough? (require 'facemenu) (define-key global-map "\M-o" 'facemenu-keymap) Also, if facemenu isn't preloaded anymore, why does it still use purecopy?