From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 17:01:11 +0300 Message-ID: <837dhp3uqg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h7gt467f.fsf@gnu.org> <874kctcb97.fsf@cock.li> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9633"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 17 16:01:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4kt8-0002Lz-NA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:01:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38684 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4kt7-0000MF-4h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 10:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4ksd-0000Lz-CC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 10:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4ksd-0003Hm-46 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 10:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1881 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4ksc-0003cC-Sk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 10:01:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874kctcb97.fsf@cock.li> (message from mrf on Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:32:08 +0300) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131793 Archived-At: > From: mrf > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:32:08 +0300 > > Is UI Strings in C code fully translatable No. But those are indeed the minority; the vast majority is in Lisp. > Do you talk about elisp part of code when you say It is limited? It doesn't matter. What does matter is that the echo-area messages, whether they come from C or Lisp, are a small part of the text that Emacs presents to the user as part of the UI. We have special buffers (like *Help* and *Apropos*) where we show information which won't fit the echo-area, we have menus and dialogs, we have tooltips, etc. etc. The names of commands and user options are all in English, and those names have mnemonic value. Let's face it: the classic i10n framework doesn't really work for a program such as Emacs, which interacts with users via so many different means.