From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering emojis Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 19:06:14 +0300 Message-ID: <837ddvrf2h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87cznths5j.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilxi7531.fsf@gnus.org> <875yth7bjr.fsf@gnus.org> <8335oltgyd.fsf@gnu.org> <837ddws6p5.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4603"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 29 18:11:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mgUTM-00010P-Dz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 18:11:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52266 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgUTK-0008IY-Co for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:11:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40016) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgUOk-0002OV-Fw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:06:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgUOk-0003t7-4W; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:06:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=6yhlte17BVmdGHQctSn73NNqLV+9Txt5/vgAh++HxCI=; b=lkpF26hWqy+J bvGK39fmdnFANZNi1zUwjMxUx+ffdV31icyDMtyoprTcHkxYAG+NFTAkGLCflJQNikzeEgxIibRzV yr34PLg83+JYg09yH9NrBkGiCKb8nenvGiCmSLmrDRGAaKVfhsquH8p3PY8ggriB5dcmREVnyDY8b wHU5ZNlL83YvXWLfFMyWcV2IzIGpKjHy2U28F7vtgmTy7V3Pb7MxXx7u7pkWRJL45qEAd5fpU2TyR v28VbX4rxJH56wZE+G1PSHNSs79QqCqPXZ5oEsu3/yyRnarKrZV8df12orNNLz090JZ6UcMeDdPZ5 MnIFBvGeSrgLj5QxksshRA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4435 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgUOi-00036O-Hy; Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:06:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:43:05 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278206 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:43:05 -0700 > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > The behavior you suggest could be a user option, by default off, and > > not specific to Emoji. Changing the behavior unconditionally, or even > > making that the default of that option, makes no sense to me, since > > the current behavior is very old, and I never heard any complaints > > about it. > > Please note my complaint then. Although I'd like to not only complain > but also more constructively propose a solution: I think that > `delete-backward-char' should treat emojis as single characters by > default. Would it be good enough to use C-d (or ) to do that? Those already delete the entire composed sequence. The behavior of DEL is special and intentional. > As soon as emoji-insert starts being more widely used, I expect that > someone will report a bug about this (or complain on IRC and on > Reddit, and perhaps write up a third-party package > "fix-delete-emoji.el", etc.). Let's wait and see, okay? I'm not saying I know there will be no complaints, I'm saying we will be able to devise a better solution if/when we have those complaints, because hopefully they will provide additional information.