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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: juri@linkov.net, manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 19:19:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837csncfz1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB4977E45152F739815608B0C396499@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (message from Arthur Miller on Thu, 01 Jun 2023 15:45:53 +0200)

> From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
> Cc: juri@linkov.net,  manuel@ledu-giraud.fr,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 15:45:53 +0200
> 
> If I try to illustrate with an example: consider a two-window setup with scratch
> buffer in first and info buffer in second window. If presses a key to execute
> next command in other window and then 'm'the system will choose commands from
> selected window (self-insert command in scratch buffer) and try to execute that
> command in other window which is info buffer. Tbat is obviously wrong since user
> probably meant to execute Info-menu, by default bound to 'm' in Info-mode.
> 
> I don't know if that can be fixed by perhaps manipulating unrread-key-events
> list or in some other way, perhaps by putting input key back, or by some other
> means. I haven't managed to get it correctly and have given up and instead tre
> to address the problem in more fundamental way by making those functions aware
> of the context they execute in. Also, even if problems could be fixed, I see no
> point of using such method in this particular patch.

I don't understand why you see such complexity.  All we need is a
command that will do

  (with-selected-window (get-buffer-window "*info*")
    BODY...

and then we need to bind it to, say, "C-x 4 h m".  Did I miss
something important?

> But for the suggested patch for help and info, I see no reason to use pre/post
> hook to switch windows, I can just use with-selected-window which does 
> exactly the same switching for me in 90% of cases, and manually fix the few
> cases which needed some extra care.

I didn't say anything about any hooks.

> For example what happends if a command call
> another command and it happen to have post hooks? Will it run after the second
> command call internally (I think it will), which means it will switch back to
> old window prematurely. 

Any post-command-hook should be prepared to deal with commands that
switch buffers and windows, so I see no new problems here.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30  5:38 Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 12:54 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 13:31   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 15:22     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 17:29     ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-31  5:55       ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 17:13         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  3:16           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  6:35             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  7:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  7:20                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  9:03                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 14:01                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:16                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 13:45                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-06-02  1:26                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:34                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 15:11                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:29                               ` Yuri Khan
2023-06-02 16:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:09                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  7:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02 15:09                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:16                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 13:53                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 14:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 15:06                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 15:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 14:19                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:33                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04  7:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:04                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 16:13                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-03 13:49                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04  8:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:40                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-04 13:53                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:00                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-06-04 14:20                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:38                                       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:48                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  8:50               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 10:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 11:33                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:39                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01 19:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:10                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:41                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  6:31           ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-30 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31  6:38   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 18:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-05-31  6:06   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 13:00     ` Drew Adams
2023-05-31 13:27       ` Arthur Miller

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