From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: make-variable-buffer-local change Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:10:08 +0300 Message-ID: <8363b6t6kv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <200909251609.n8PG97YN020225@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <6A896C20C65941FE96D239B7E5A1C667@us.oracle.com> <83fxaau9hd.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253956140 29806 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2009 09:09:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 26 11:08:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MrTGb-0007Ox-Tz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:08:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57540 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrTGb-0002Ly-Bb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrTGF-0002Ac-LZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrTGE-00029L-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50106 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrTGD-000294-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]:10218) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrTGC-0003y6-Un for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout6.012.net.il by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KQK00300MOCEE00@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:08:06 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.56.156]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KQK00A8EMPH28A0@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:08:06 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115655 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , , , > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:10:51 -0700 > > > > > I'd say "use" covers both kinds of use, but I'll defer to natives. > > > > > > It's not a question of native speakers. "Use" here refers > > > to what the string is _for_; what it is used for. > > > > Would replacing "use" with "set" solve this problem? > > You missed the point. We don't want to talk about places where the value is set. > What's important is what the variable is for. The doc string already includes that information: String to display in buffer listings for buffers not visiting a file. If you think this is insufficient or can suggest a better wording, please do. But you began this sub-thread by complaining against the next sentence, which, at least for me, caused confusion as to what you were complaining about. > What is important is to let users know that they can set it for use by > buffer-listing code. I agree, and I think the above portion of the doc string does precisely that.