From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:44:04 +0300 Message-ID: <8362zv3gwr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <4C3CB082.40608@gmx.de> <874ofiow2c.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878w4r3lm7.fsf@gmail.com> <4C5425F6.6050101@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280583892 16653 80.91.229.12 (31 Jul 2010 13:44:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sean.sieger@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 31 15:44:51 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfCMn-0007mr-MZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:44:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45277 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OfCMm-00072Z-Ju for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:44:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56444 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OfCMe-00072G-HD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:44:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfCMd-00027A-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:44:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:46799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfCMc-00026m-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L6F00900COPKA00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:44:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.19.236]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L6F0072XCTEOC90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:44:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4C5425F6.6050101@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128053 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:32:38 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > We should abandon the whole idea of "splitting" and call these, for > example, `create-window', `create-window-on-the-right', ... In Emacs 24 and later, you cannot safely use "on the right" because with some R2L scripts it could actually come out on the left... (Not that Emacs already does that, nor do I think it should, but we might one day.) "Side by side" and "above/below" are still the winners.