From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9571: 24.0.50; user option to turn off bidi, please Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:13:47 +0300 Message-ID: <8362kjsjsk.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316769412 12397 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2011 09:16:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9571@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 11:16:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R71sG-0006wu-FZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:16:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59079 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R71sG-0004yB-1P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34892) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R71s9-0004xq-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:16:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R71s5-0003nn-EB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:16:41 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41387) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R71s5-0003nj-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:16:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R71sU-0006Cs-By for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9571 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 9571-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9571.131676937023786 (code B ref 9571); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9571) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2011 09:16:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R71re-0006Bb-9j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R71rb-0006BS-4u for 9571@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LRY00G00XKDHV00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9571@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:14:46 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.8.215]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LRY00GURXOLBO40@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:14:46 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:17:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51694 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:44:39 -0400 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: 9571@debbugs.gnu.org > > One use for a feature to disable bidi display > is to figure out what's really present in some strange piece of text. Bidi display does not change the characters on display or in the buffer in any way. So it will neither help nor prevent you to figure out what's in the text. As Stefan pointed out, find-file-literally has the effect of automatically disabling bidi display (because the bidi reordering is only done in multibyte buffers), so the same Emacs feature generally used for figuring out what's in some strange text also inhibits the bidi display, without any need for the user to do anything.