From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:11:38 +0300 Message-ID: <83629ez18l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343074302 13609 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2012 20:11:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 23 22:11:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1StOyi-0006LH-85 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:11:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StOyh-0006rt-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:11:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StOyf-0006ro-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StOyd-0007fV-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:11:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:49331) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StOyd-0007fP-NP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:11:35 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7M00200QNCJ600@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:11:33 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7M002RGQR9JH00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:11:33 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151822 Archived-At: > From: "John Wiegley" > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:45:34 -0500 >=20 > Waiting until NS finds its star developer does not seem like a real= strategy > to me Then don't wait. Sit down and start hacking. You will get a lot of support from everyone here, as soon as you start asking technical questions and seek advice how to attack specific problems. > Simply because non-OS X users don't seem to care what happens on OS= X, doesn't > mean it should be this easy to ignore the problem. It hasn't "gone= away" in a > few years now, and I don't see why that's suddenly going to change = now. This line of argument won't get you anywhere, believe me. Been there done that -- I waited for 6 years for Someone=E2=84=A2 to come and in= corporate the bidi reordering engine into Emacs redisplay, which I wrote and debugged back in 2002, but finally had to do it myself. If I hadn't, Emacs would still live in unidirectional world today. > When in a scratch buffer, if I enable flyspell-mode, I can type fas= t enough > that Emacs can't insert the characters as quickly as I can type. >=20 > It's this last problem that makes the NS port entirely unusable to > me. Then attack this one first. For starters, flyspell.el is not supposed to do anything until it see= s that you completed a word. So as long as you type letters with no whitespace or punctuation, the slowdown should be minimal to non-existent, and the external speller program is not involved. Do you still see significant slowdown while typing a single long word? Or does it get slow only as soon as a word is completed and flyspell starts talking to the speller?