From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beginner questions Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:57:58 +0300 Message-ID: <8361tgeuvt.fsf@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380650296 6528 80.91.229.3 (1 Oct 2013 17:58:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:58:16 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 19:58:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VR4DB-0004eC-Sy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:58:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60444 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VR4DB-0005iY-EB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:58:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VR4Cy-0005iS-2J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:58:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VR4Cs-0005lR-7O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:60965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VR4Cr-0005lF-VD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:57:58 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MU0002004JHU800@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:57:56 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MU0002334KJOK50@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:57:56 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93776 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 10:27:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rustom Mody > > Finally switched to vi. ??? Why not "M-x hexl-mode RET" or "M-x hexlify-buffer RET"? This is Emacs, right? > It showed me: > [[http://cs.brown.edu/people/pw/papers/monist.ps<200e>][Philosophical diffs between OOp and FP]] > > 200e??? What the hell... > Asked emacs to describe-char (the nothing at that point!) and that is something called 'left-to-right-mark' > > So humble request: Please show what is there! That character is displayed as a thin space in my Emacs 23.4. Not sure why you didn't see it. In Emacs 24, you can control the display using the glyphless-char stuff. But otherwise, I don't see what exactly is wrong with Emacs in that case.