From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req. Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:09:51 +0200 Message-ID: <8361pxt7lc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140102095347.6834E381D0C@snark.thyrsus.com> <87fvp6bdd9.fsf_-_@ktab.red-bean.com> <8761q1ljny.fsf@gmail.com> <20140103175006.GE17261@thyrsus.com> <87ppo6u3mr.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <874n5i40th.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <87y52tupp3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389024629 18525 80.91.229.3 (6 Jan 2014 16:10:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 06 17:10:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Cl2-0000BZ-NX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:10:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36021 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Cl2-00059b-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:10:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ckr-00059C-Co for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:10:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ckl-0003o8-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:46032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Ckd-0003aX-TG; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYZ00J00LB2N100@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:10:02 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYZ00JW5M8Q9280@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:10:02 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87y52tupp3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167478 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:53:28 +0100 > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > I never consult changelog files if I have the full VCS history. > > > > I do. I use the ChangeLog files to see what changes affected a > > certain function. > > I tend to use C-x v g for that (it maps to git blame). This can be annoyingly slow (and with git is slower than with bzr). E.g., try xdisp.c: it takes git more than 4 minutes to display anything in response to "C-x v g" (2 minutes if done from the shell). Looking into ChangeLog's is surely faster. Someone, I think it was you, once told me that the slow operation of 'git blame' was a deliberate design decision of the git developers. So it doesn't sound like this is supposed to be the first tool to be used for such jobs. FWIW, I use that only after I already have some idea about what I'm looking for and in which time period.