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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Turning off colorization
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 17:40:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8361errpc7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvoasjm3pt.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:28:51 -0500
> Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, rms@gnu.org,
> 	emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> >> Not every face that defines a color is controlled by font-lock.
> 
> No, but font-lock-mode is the standard way to control whether or not
> a buffer is colorized/highlighted.  We introduced font-lock-face
> specifically so that font-lock-mode can also be used for the case where
> the highlighting is actually not applied via the usual
> font-lock-keywords method.

But we ourselves are inconsistent in this respect.  E.g.,
file-name-shadow-mode does its thing disregarding font-lock.  So what
you describe might be your aspiration (which I'm not sure I share),
but it certainly isn't adhered enough in core Emacs itself.

More generally, turning off font-lock certainly won't turn colors
globally in the entire Emacs display, because there are elements, like
window decorations and menus, which are not derived from buffer text,
and therefore cannot possibly be controlled by font-lock.  If we want
a single command to turn off all colors, we cannot use font-lock for
that.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-07 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-04 16:43 Turning off colorization Richard Stallman
2014-11-04 17:11 ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-05  4:57   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05  9:11     ` David Kastrup
2014-11-05 11:31       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-05 11:51         ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-05 12:49           ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-05 13:05             ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-05 11:52         ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-05 12:03           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-05 12:30             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-05 12:23         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-05 12:52           ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-05 17:06             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-05 17:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-05 17:35               ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-05 19:56                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-05 20:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-05 12:55           ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-05 13:00           ` Yoni Rabkin
2014-11-05 14:00           ` James Cloos
2014-11-05 18:13             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 23:37               ` James Cloos
2014-11-06 10:05                 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-06 15:26                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 16:03                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-06 16:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07  7:13                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-07 14:43                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-08  6:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-08 15:26                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-09 20:06                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-07  7:12                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 15:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 20:13           ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 21:42             ` Tim Cross
2014-11-06 23:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07  0:10               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07  4:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-05 18:12       ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 11:05     ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-04 20:59 ` Nic Ferrier
     [not found]   ` <CAG-q9=a+nTM3KhYeBfzvSZOWKMjdDgaUyQw25_NkAkoad3QwOw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-11-05  1:09     ` Kelvin White
2014-11-05  2:10       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-05  8:23         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2014-11-06 16:47 ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 17:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-06 19:55     ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 18:00   ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2014-11-06 19:44     ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 19:44   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-06 19:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07  6:36       ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-07  7:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07  7:59           ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-07  9:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-06 21:55   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-07  0:04   ` James Cloos
2014-11-07 13:57     ` Gregor Zattler
2014-11-07 14:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07 14:47         ` Gregor Zattler
2014-11-07 15:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07 15:27             ` Gregor Zattler
2014-11-07 16:59       ` James Cloos
2014-11-07 19:12         ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-07 18:36       ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-07  7:13   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-07  8:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-08  6:44       ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-08  8:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-08 21:36           ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-08 22:18           ` James Cloos
2014-11-08 22:30             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-08 22:51               ` James Cloos
2014-11-09  1:30                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-09  3:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-10 15:29                   ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-10 16:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-10 18:37                       ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-11  1:32                         ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-11 17:58                           ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-09  3:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-09 14:57                   ` James Cloos
2014-11-09 16:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-09 20:07                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-09 20:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-10 19:07                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-10 19:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <<83r3xfs8mx.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-11-07 14:43       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-07 15:28         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 15:40           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-11-07 16:08             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-08  6:44             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-09  4:14 ` Paul W. Rankin
2014-11-09 20:08   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-09 22:03   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10  1:41     ` Paul Rankin

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