From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19302: 24.4.51; `date-to-time' fails after 2038 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:26:54 +0200 Message-ID: <8361dkwufl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vblmc377.fsf@gmail.com> <83ppbswzfq.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9x4k7qg.fsf@violet.siamics.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418149706 30689 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 18:28:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19302@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ivan Shmakov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 19:28:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPWE-0002Tj-Od for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:28:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPWE-0004g4-B9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:28:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPW5-0004fn-8j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:28:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPVz-0003ez-1u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:28:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPVy-0003ev-O6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPVy-0001K7-4B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19302 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19302-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19302.14181496255010 (code B ref 19302); Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19302) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2014 18:27:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59901 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPV2-0001Ik-JN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:27:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:64437) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyPUz-0001IG-WF for 19302@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:27:03 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NGB00800V7M6E00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 19302@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:27:00 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NGB0058EV8ZM490@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:27:00 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87h9x4k7qg.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97095 Archived-At: > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:17:59 +0000 > > > What do you do with time_t fields of 'struct stat', 'struct timeval', > > and other structures used by library functions? They will still wrap > > around. > > How would that affect a function whose purpose is not to pass > such a time value to some library call? > > And when a value /is/ passed to the underlying platform, it can > be checked if it fits the target type, and the error signalled > if it doesn’t. So such an Emacs will be broken anyway after 2038, because it will be unable to interpret file attributes, use interval timers, etc.