From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19865: tar-untar-buffer: should honor default-directory Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:37:54 +0200 Message-ID: <8361b4wd8d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a90gd91b.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87fva8bi4v.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <83h9uowhxh.fsf@gnu.org> <877fvkbdpw.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <83a90gwfpl.fsf@gnu.org> <873868bbvk.fsf@violet.siamics.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423939172 2903 80.91.229.3 (14 Feb 2015 18:39:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19865@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ivan Shmakov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 14 19:39:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhcZ-00015T-RU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 19:39:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60861 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhcZ-0000hQ-Ar for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:39:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhcR-0000d9-Oe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:39:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhcM-0007lh-O6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:39:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52912) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhcM-0007lc-Kt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhcM-0006Fa-DI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:39:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19865 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 19865-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19865.142393908323962 (code B ref 19865); Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19865) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2015 18:38:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44152 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhbP-0006EO-87 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:38:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:43861) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMhbM-0006Dr-7S for 19865@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:38:01 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJR00O00Y2O8W00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 19865@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:32:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJR00D0PY6FILA0@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:32:40 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <873868bbvk.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:99408 Archived-At: > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:12:47 +0000 > > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:32:59 +0000 > > […] > > >> My understanding is that the Stefan’s comment is an OK (for a former > >> patch), while your request for “someone third to resolve the tie” is > >> a NAK (please correct me if it’s not.) > > > It is only a NAK if it's respected. > > I will surely respect any NAKs from those in charge of the given > package, or Emacs as a whole (as per the Savannah project page.) The file says emacs-devel is in charge, so I'm not sure who you mean here. > > I cannot force anyone here to do anything, I don’t have that power. > > We’re all volunteers here, yes. But you can – and, I’d argue, > should – /prevent/ the use of the Emacs community resources for > the purposes contrary to the advancement of the project itself. I don't know what that means in practice. I have my opinions and views, but who is to say whether they are or aren't contrary to the advancement? > >> I appreciate the comments regarding the possible new “explicit > >> destination directory” feature, and I guess I can work on a possible > >> implementation once /this/ issue – and also #19481 – are fixed. > >> However, I believe that such a new feature is no substitute for a > >> proper fix to this bug. > > > I obviously disagree, but whatever. > > And I’d still like to hear why you think that tar-untar-buffer > /must/ use the value of default-directory local to a buffer > /other/ than the one the user called this command from. Because it's simpler, and makes the code easier to follow.