From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message, Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 20:12:52 +0300 Message-ID: <836197j20b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <552130FE.1010101@yandex.ru> <83mw2mn2no.fsf@gnu.org> <5521359D.2000509@yandex.ru> <83fv8emvgq.fsf@gnu.org> <55219139.8040507@yandex.ru> <83oan2l4pk.fsf@gnu.org> <5521B811.8070603@yandex.ru> <83d23hlmia.fsf@gnu.org> <20150407165131.GA2600@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428426792 15567 80.91.229.3 (7 Apr 2015 17:13:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 17:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 07 19:13:03 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YfX3e-0003rD-Lf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 19:13:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47559 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfX3e-0002jR-2y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47001) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfX3R-0002jB-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfX3O-0006dh-1i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:54769) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfX3N-0006dH-QJ; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NMG008004SN5X00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 20:12:44 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NMG008RQ5584Y20@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 20:12:44 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20150407165131.GA2600@acm.fritz.box> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185095 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 16:51:31 +0000 > From: Alan Mackenzie > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Development tools are supposed to make our work easier -- not harder. > > For me, Git means many hurdles to jump in order to do the things that > > were easy before. > > For what it's worth, I agree with you here on all the points you make. > > > Also, I do this infrequently enough that I will have time to forget > > whatever I learn now. > > I have had the good fortune/misfortune of having to learn this tool to a > minimum level of competence to be able to contribute to Emacs at all. > This cost me many, many hours I would rather have spent doing other > things. I'm committing often enough not to forget between commits - for > the moment, at any rate. > > Git is a monster to learn, taking an order of magnitude longer than to > learn Mercurial or Bazaar, and a greater jump still from learning CVS. > > I would prefer just to be a user of a VCS. With most VCSs, this is > possible. With git, it is not; one has to know a good deal of its > internal workings to use it at all. Alan, if you have a few moments to spare, could you read GitQuickStartForEmacsDevs and see if the current procedures there appeal to you (or maybe even tell you something useful you didn't already know)? Your comments will be appreciated. TIA