From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message, Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:51:36 +0300 Message-ID: <836195forr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mw2mn2no.fsf@gnu.org> <5521359D.2000509@yandex.ru> <83fv8emvgq.fsf@gnu.org> <55219139.8040507@yandex.ru> <83oan2l4pk.fsf@gnu.org> <5521B811.8070603@yandex.ru> <83d23hlmia.fsf@gnu.org> <20150407165131.GA2600@acm.fritz.box> <552486A4.2020803@yandex.ru> <20150408104847.GA4252@acm.fritz.box> <5525D2ED.7030703@yandex.ru> <83iod5g3rr.fsf@gnu.org> <55266E77.3080109@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428584064 25414 80.91.229.3 (9 Apr 2015 12:54:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 12:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 09 14:54:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YgByH-00050W-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:54:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34447 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgByH-0000Tq-Ay for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35777) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgBy3-0000Tk-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgBy0-0008GB-Bt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:51134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgBy0-0008G3-3g; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:53:56 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NMJ00900I6QWB00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:51:23 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NMJ00980IDMM890@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:51:23 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <55266E77.3080109@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185198 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:20:07 +0300 > From: Dmitry Gutov > CC: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > But you have to admit that Git requires a newbie to learn > > quite a lot -- new terminology, several new commands, and new > > procedures -- as a _prerequisite_ for being able to work in a single > > remote-tracking branch. And this is the core problem here. > > Maybe so, but not an order of magnitude more than if we used something > comparable like Mercurial. I don't know about orders of magnitude, and we didn't try Mercurial. We did use Bazaar, and Richard never complained like that, AFAIR. > It's just the price of using an advanced tool. An advanced tool that insists on exposing too much of its advanced features for the simplest operation. > Contributing to Emacs asks a person to learn different things, some of > them fairly niche You forget that there are those among us for whom all of those things were lessons learned long ago. Which leaves just Git as the step to climb.